Trump Addresses The Nation

[lawtig02]

Not antagonistic at all and appreciate the non judgmental nature of the questions. Happy to offer my opinion. I share your feeling of trying to wrap my head around some things, only the opposite way. I have written in candidates before (maybe twice). I always vote. In my state the local elections and primaries are more important than the general as the general is pretty much determined.

My view of politics has evolved to a degree. I have come to accept that individually i really am inconsequential when it comes to national elections, but not inconsequential in local elections. I also no longer enjoy talking about politicians because it kills any discussion of actual policy. Pick any recent topic and inevitably it comes back to trump rather than the actual pros / cons of the policy. How many topics on the front page of this board don’t wind up being dominated by trump vs the actual policy? This board is dominated by emotions and I think many come here every day and some all day as a method of seeking / providing emotional support. If that is helpful then great but I’m wired to think less with emotion, especially lately. Not better or worse / right or wrong. Just a difference in people. Wasn’t always that way. I have a history on the zzl of making emotional comments. Something profound changed in me with the Kirk assassination.

Just wanted to say I respect you for this. And I agree with a lot of it. I'm not optimistic much will change in the next three years, but I hold out hope we'll be able to get back to some semblance of normal political discourse in 2029, and I hope you and I are both around for that.

 

[BlueSteel]

That’s how the media preys on people.

Here we go.

The fatal flaw in your assertion is that one side of the media actually bases its reporting and opinions on the truth. You don't have to agree with it or like it, but that doesn't make said reporting or opining less truthful. OTOH, the other side of the media (yours, apparently) bases its reporting and opinions on emotion and "alternative facts" —your side coined this, btw. So when you speak about the media "preying" on people, the reality is that it's a very lopsided comparison. And it isn't even close.

 

[Kingpin]

It is projected that white folks will lose their majority status in less than 20 years. I wonder if this is what frightens white folks as they watch and experience the "browning" of America more so than fearing being raped and murdered by people of color.

Diving a bit deeper I wonder if this fear is based upon an unconscious awareness of how the white majority has treated the non white minority throughout our history and worries a non-white majority might react in kind.

This is exactly what they fear. You’ve heard them chant “you will not replace us”. And the great replacement theory.

 

[CarolinaFever]

It is projected that white folks will lose their majority status in less than 20 years. I wonder if this is what frightens white folks as they watch and experience the "browning" of America more so than fearing being raped and murdered by people of color.

Diving a bit deeper I wonder if this fear is based upon an unconscious awareness of how the white majority has treated the non white minority throughout our history and worries a non-white majority might react in kind.

The MAGA cult is all about maintaining their status and power in society by just being straight white Christians.

 

[Callatoroy]

Here we go.

The fatal flaw in your assertion is that one side of the media actually bases its reporting and opinions on the truth. You don't have to agree with it or like it, but that doesn't make said reporting or opining less truthful. OTOH, the other side of the media (yours, apparently) bases its reporting and opinions on emotion and "alternative facts" —your side coined this, btw. So when you speak about the media "preying" on people, the reality is that it's a very lopsided comparison. And it isn't even close.

My assertion is this. The media in this country (right and left), for the most part has lost a great deal of objectivity and trust among the American people. Those catering to each side are guilty of misleading through being factually incorrect, refusing to report, leaving out pertinent details, or including assumptions that might be proven to be false later. The end result is intended to manipulate opinion. I have never argued that the media on the right doesn't do that. However, imo, many on here dispute that the left's media is guilty of that despite several recent high profile examples designed to influence elections, and admitted to after the fact when it is found out and those sites called out. What I don't get is why the left is so hell bent on defending that. My reaction is anger and distrust. Now, if I hear something on Fox news I can no longer trust it and have to actually go to the trouble to google it to see how many other sources are reporting on it and read those sources. The mere fact that we have right or left news sources clearly defines that there is intent to sway opinion. One side can't always be right and one side always be wrong. If you disagree that's fine. But I have seen clear indisputable evidence of that. And, imo, is part of the reason we have such a division in this country. Don't know about you, but I despise the effort to manipulate my opinions by any news source.

 

[finesse]

My assertion is this. The media in this country (right and left), for the most part has lost a great deal of objectivity and trust among the American people. Those catering to each side are guilty of misleading through being factually incorrect, refusing to report, leaving out pertinent details, or including assumptions that might be proven to be false later. The end result is intended to manipulate opinion. I have never argued that the media on the right doesn't do that. However, imo, many on here dispute that the left's media is guilty of that despite several recent high profile examples designed to influence elections, and admitted to after the fact when it is found out and those sites called out. What I don't get is why the left is so hell bent on defending that. My reaction is anger and distrust. Now, if I hear something on Fox news I can no longer trust it and have to actually go to the trouble to google it to see how many other sources are reporting on it and read those sources. The mere fact that we have right or left news sources clearly defines that there is intent to sway opinion. One side can't always be right and one side always be wrong. If you disagree that's fine. But I have seen clear indisputable evidence of that. And, imo, is part of the reason we have such a division in this country. Don't know about you, but I despise the effort to manipulate my opinions by any news source.

You need to share that clear indisputable evidence instead of the BS you've been bringing.