Trump Admin dismantling Dept. of Education — mass firings underway

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Musk Team Announces Millions in Cuts to Education Dept. Amid Legal Pushback​

Elon Musk’s cost-cutting team said that it had “terminated” 89 of the department’s contracts, apparently targeting its research arm.

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Musks’s DOGE Announces Millions in Cuts to Education Dept. Amid Legal Pushback

Elon Musk’s cost-cutting team said that it had “terminated” 89 of the department’s contracts, apparently targeting its research arm.
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“… Most, if not all, of the contract cuts hit the Institute of Education Sciences’s portfolio, including Education Innovation and Research grants and review projects associated with the What Works Clearinghouse, which produces and curates research on best practices in education, according to three people familiar with the department’s contracting. The people requested anonymity out of fear of reprisal because they were not authorized to discuss the cuts.

Less than two weeks after the release of new federal testing data showing reading achievement at historic lows, the cuts were likely to hit research intended to answer questions about some of the biggest problems in American education since the Covid-19 pandemic, such as absenteeism and student behavioral challenges. ..”
 
1. He literally campaigned on this happening. He was elected by a majority of voters. Acting as if this is a shock is laughable
2. This is a win for the nation's education system
3. We spend more per pupil than any other country and the results are terrible
4. States and counties know how to better run their education systems so it will be a net win and serve students better
5. This, along with border security were two of the key issues I voted for.
 
The Department of Education doesn't set national academic standards or curricula. States and local governments *already* set academic standards, including requirements for both enrollment and graduation, and also set licensing requirements for teachers and other educational staff. Among other functions, the DOE exists to provide funding and resources to state, local, and community-based educational organizations, especially those in rural, low-population, underserved, and under-resourced areas. Many of these rural, low-population (thus low property tax revenue), underserved, and under-resourced areas are in Republican-controlled states. In other words, the Department of Education is subsidizing public education for rural and underserved students in red states whose own state and local governments can't or won't do it themselves. Eliminating the Department of Education will primarily hurt students in rural red states. States like Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Missouri, the Dakotas, etc. are already DFL across the board in almost every available educational quality metric. What do you think is going to happen to them when they are left to try to fund their own educational systems?
 
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CFordUNC said:
The Department of Education doesn't set national academic standards or curricula. States and local governments *already* set academic standards, including requirements for both enrollment and graduation, and also set licensing requirements for teachers and other educational staff. Among other functions, the DOE exists to provide funding and resources to state, local, and community-based educational organizations, especially those in rural, low-population, underserved, and under-resourced areas. Many of these rural, low-population (thus low property tax revenue), underserved, and under-resourced areas are in Republican-controlled states. In other words, the Department of Education is subsidizing public education for rural and underserved students in red states whose own state and local governments can't or won't do it themselves. Eliminating the Department of Education will primarily hurt students in rural red states. States like Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Missouri, the Dakotas, etc. are already DFL across the board in almost every available educational quality metric. What do you think is going to happen to them when they are left to try to fund their own educational systems?
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All most red states are going to do if they're just given federal funds for education directly is to spend it on things other than public ed. They hate public ed and want it gone. Does anyone think that if NC was just given federal funding directly that our anti-public ed state legislature (led by teacher-hating worthies like Phil Berger) would actually give most of that money to public ed? They would just spend it on vouchers, charters, Trump Bibles for classrooms, or anything other than public ed, such as giving badly-needed pay raises to veteran teachers in this state. And I have no doubt that a good chunk of the money would end up in the pockets of various Trumpers in red states as well, given the corruption we're already seeing with vouchers in some states. It'll be a disaster that some future Democratic administration will likely have to fix, and it will take years to do so.
 
CFordUNC said:
The Department of Education doesn't set national academic standards or curricula. States and local governments *already* set academic standards, including requirements for both enrollment and graduation, and also set licensing requirements for teachers and other educational staff. Among other functions, the DOE exists to provide funding and resources to state, local, and community-based educational organizations, especially those in rural, low-population, underserved, and under-resourced areas. Many of these rural, low-population (thus low property tax revenue), underserved, and under-resourced areas are in Republican-controlled states. In other words, the Department of Education is subsidizing public education for rural and underserved students in red states whose own state and local governments can't or won't do it themselves. Eliminating the Department of Education will primarily hurt students in rural red states. States like Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Missouri, the Dakotas, etc. are already DFL across the board in almost every available educational quality metric. What do you think is going to happen to them when they are left to try to fund their own educational systems?
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Yeah, I don’t see how anyone could look at a list of states ranked by educational outcomes and think red states will actually benefit by having everything left up to the states. Unless the goal is to have an uneducated populace. Which it very well may be.
 
lawtig02 said:
Yeah, I don’t see how anyone could look at a list of states ranked by educational outcomes and think red states will actually benefit by having everything left up to the states. Unless the goal is to have an uneducated populace. Which it very well may be.
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Europe has a vastly superior education system to ours. Those countries don't have dept. of educations at the national level. And we know how dims like to use europe as its litmus test for everything.
 
Callatoroy said:
Europe has a vastly superior education system to ours. Those countries don't have dept. of educations at the national level. And we know how dims like to use europe as its litmus test for everything.
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Are you sure? What do you reckon the French Education Ministry does? How about the British Department for Education? Or the Netherlands Ministry of Education, Culture and Science? Or the German Federal Ministry of Education and Research? Should I go on?

Dumbass.
 
lawtig02 said:
Yeah, I don’t see how anyone could look at a list of states ranked by educational outcomes and think red states will actually benefit by having everything left up to the states. Unless the goal is to have an uneducated populace. Which it very well may be.
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A feature, not a bug.
 
farce© said:
Outta his ass, and he’s stupid enough to think we are stupid enough to believe him. He spends too much time with Republicans. They will believe all kinds of bullshit.
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I feel like that may be why he is so angry all the time here. I've been trying to figure out why buddy is always so pissed off here when his party has got the ol' governmental power trifecta, but I think we may have figured it out. He hates that nobody here on a message board full of radical leftist jihadist Dims is stupid enough to buy the bullshit he peddles without fact checking him.
 
Callatoroy said:
Europe has a vastly superior education system to ours. Those countries don't have dept. of educations at the national level. And we know how dims like to use europe as its litmus test for everything.
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I guess you’re not talking about these countries…..

National Education Systems

Here you can consult the pages of the Eurydice Network national units based in 40 countries (27 Member States, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Moldova, Montenegro, Norway, the Republic of North Macedonia, Serbia, Switzerland, Türkiye and Ukraine). You can...
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nycfan said:
www.wsj.com

Exclusive | Trump Advisers Weigh Plan to Dismantle Education Department

Under discussion is an executive order that could shut down key functions of the agency.
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Trump Advisers Weigh Plan to Dismantle Education Department​

Administration officials are discussing executive order that could shut down key functions of the agency​


"Trump administration officials are weighing executive actions to dismantle the Education Department as part of the campaign by billionaire Elon Musk and his allies to shrink federal agencies and slash the size of the government workforce.

The officials have discussed an executive order that would shut down all functions of the agency that aren’t written explicitly into statute or move certain functions to other departments, according to people familiar with the matter. The order would call for developing a legislative proposal to abolish the department, the people said. Trump’s advisers are debating the specifics of the order and the timing, the people said. ..."

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Musk has his fingers in all the schemes to eliminate services that don't directly benefit the 0.1% ...
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Trump is determined to make "Idiocracy" into a documentary.
 
Callatoroy said:
excuse me. A EU dept of education. just like states here, each country has its own standards. germany's system is independent from england's and that is independent from france's. The result is a far superior system.
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What the hell are you even arguing? Each of those are distinct countries- not states- regardless of their European Union status. You're trying to argue for the elimination of a federal department of education, and you used Europe as an example of good educational outcomes- and, whattaya know, lo and behold, each of those European countries has a FEDERAL equivalent of an education department. Are you even trying anymore?
 
CFordUNC said:
What the hell are you even arguing? Each of those are distinct countries- not states- regardless of their European Union status. You're trying to argue for the elimination of a federal department of education, and you used Europe as an example of good educational outcomes- and, whattaya know, lo and behold, each of those European countries has a FEDERAL equivalent of an education department. Are you even trying anymore?
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I'm laughing so hard right now at dude's response. Rather than be wrong, he doubled down on stupid.

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