Trump Admin dismantling Dept. of Education — mass firings underway

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Any estimate would be a wild ass guess without doing a sample audit. You could audit say 5% of the vendors for an agency and then you could project from that. But even that estimate is useless when it comes to finding fraud. You have to pin down vendors who are committing fraud. Trust me, no one can sit at a desk and just come up with a number that has any chance of being right.
I think it's going to be a little closer than a wild ass guess. There's a lot of data points. If some random small sample is proven to have say 1.5% fraud and another random sample has a similar amount and another random sample has a similar amount, you can start to extend that over the whole data set and make a pretty decent estimate.
 
He should have a budget for non-business outings approved by congress. Anything beyond that and it comes out of his pocket.
I'll be okay with him paying for his own flight but I don't think he should be paying for secret service protection or any of the other administrative stuff that comes with it.

I look it at it as if he was a private citizen, what would he be expected to pay. Have him pay that but everything that keeps him safe or lets him do his job remotely as president should be on the taxpayer dime. That goes for any president.

And it's a silly issue that only gets brought up when the other parties guy is the president. I remember Republicans screaming bloody murder about some trip that Obama took to India and they had to redeploy a fleet or something ridiculous.
 
I'll be okay with him paying for his own flight but I don't think he should be paying for secret service protection or any of the other administrative stuff that comes with it.

I look it at it as if he was a private citizen, what would he be expected to pay. Have him pay that but everything that keeps him safe or lets him do his job remotely as president should be on the taxpayer dime. That goes for any president.

And it's a silly issue that only gets brought up when the other parties guy is the president. I remember Republicans screaming bloody murder about some trip that Obama took to India and they had to redeploy a fleet or something ridiculous.
A golf course in India ? Or no , likely diplomacy There are a like Billion freaking people in india we might want to like us
 
When Mcroy came in his crowd was positive there was massive fraud-going to Dems. So they Really ramped up Auditing-at for Ex DHHS where I was. Completely transfomed, upgraded. the audit function
Last I looked their multimillion dollar audit work had found some questionable time sheets by $30 an hour employees at one little outpost
There was no "massive fraud" to be found
I thought the really big issue was private parties doing things like unnecessary procedures and selling unnecessary medical equipment. Did they look for that kind of fraud at the state level? I really don't know but that seems like the feds balawick.

My experience has been the state has been pretty tight with regards to legality. The big counties and cities are the same but the rural local guys not so much. Some of them play it pretty loose.

My experience would only be tangentially related to health and human services.
 

U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights Sends Letters to 60 Universities Under Investigation for Antisemitic Discrimination and Harassment​

Letters warn of potential enforcement actions if institutions do not fulfill their obligations under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act to protect Jewish students on campus.
March 10, 2025
WASHINGTON – Today, the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights (OCR) sent letters to 60 institutions of higher education warning them of potential enforcement actions if they do not fulfill their obligations under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act to protect Jewish students on campus, including uninterrupted access to campus facilities and educational opportunities. The letters are addressed to all U.S. universities that are presently under investigation for Title VI violations relating to antisemitic harassment and discrimination.

“The Department is deeply disappointed that Jewish students studying on elite U.S. campuses continue to fear for their safety amid the relentless antisemitic eruptions that have severely disrupted campus life for more than a year. University leaders must do better,” said Secretary of Education Linda McMahon. “U.S. colleges and universities benefit from enormous public investments funded by U.S. taxpayers. That support is a privilege and it is contingent on scrupulous adherence to federal antidiscrimination laws.”

The schools that received letters from the Office for Civil Rights include:

  1. American University
  2. Arizona State University
  3. Boston University
  4. Brown University
  5. California State University, Sacramento
  6. Chapman University
  7. Columbia University
  8. Cornell University
  9. Drexel University
  10. Eastern Washington University
  11. Emerson College
  12. George Mason University
  13. Harvard University
  14. Illinois Wesleyan University
  15. Indiana University, Bloomington
  16. Johns Hopkins University
  17. Lafayette College
  18. Lehigh University
  19. Middlebury College
  20. Muhlenberg College
  21. Northwestern University
  22. Ohio State University
  23. Pacific Lutheran University
  24. Pomona College
  25. Portland State University
  26. Princeton University
  27. Rutgers University
  28. Rutgers University-Newark
  29. Santa Monica College
  30. Sarah Lawrence College
  31. Stanford University
  32. State University of New York Binghamton
  33. State University of New York Rockland
  34. State University of New York, Purchase
  35. Swarthmore College
  36. Temple University
  37. The New School
  38. Tufts University
  39. Tulane University
  40. Union College
  41. University of California Davis
  42. University of California San Diego
  43. University of California Santa Barbara
  44. University of California, Berkeley
  45. University of Cincinnati
  46. University of Hawaii at Manoa
  47. University of Massachusetts Amherst
  48. University of Michigan
  49. University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
  50. University of North Carolina
  51. University of South Florida
  52. University of Southern California
  53. University of Tampa
  54. University of Tennessee
  55. University of Virginia
  56. University of Washington-Seattle
  57. University of Wisconsin, Madison
  58. Wellesley College
  59. Whitman College
  60. Yale University
Background:

The Department’s OCR sent these letters under its authority to enforce Title VI of the Civil Rights Act (1964), which prohibits any institution that receives federal funds from discriminating on the basis of race, color, and national origin. National origin includes shared (Jewish) ancestry.

Pursuant to Title VI and in furtherance of President Trump’s Executive Order “Additional Measures to Combat Antisemitism,” the Department launched directed investigations into five universities where widespread antisemitic harassment has been reported. The 55 additional universities are under investigation or monitoring in response to complaints filed with OCR. Last week, the Department, alongside fellow members of the Joint Task Force to Combat Antisemitism including the Department of Justice, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the U.S. General Services Administration, announced the immediate cancelation of $400 million in federal grants and contracts to Columbia University due to the school’s continued inaction to protect Jewish students from discrimination. Last Friday, OCR directed its enforcement staff to make resolving the backlog of complaints alleging antisemitic violence and harassment, many which were allowed to languish unresolved under the previous administration, an immediate priority.
How did UCLA avoid this list? They had some of the worst violence and are actually being sued in federal court (by both Palestinian groups and Jewish groups).
 
I think it's going to be a little closer than a wild ass guess. There's a lot of data points. If some random small sample is proven to have say 1.5% fraud and another random sample has a similar amount and another random sample has a similar amount, you can start to extend that over the whole data set and make a pretty decent estimate.
The larger the sample size the closer you get to the actual number. But once again, fraud as to be addressed on a case by case basis. The thing to do is not cut funding by 1.5% to use your number above. You have to find the vendors who are actually committing fraud. Otherwise, they won’t be found out and they’ll just keep right on their merry way of ripping off the government. And, at the same time, you will be hurting clients and honest vendors.
 
I think it's going to be a little closer than a wild ass guess. There's a lot of data points. If some random small sample is proven to have say 1.5% fraud and another random sample has a similar amount and another random sample has a similar amount, you can start to extend that over the whole data set and make a pretty decent estimate.
Didn't you say you were in data science? LOL. Take a stats course.
 
The larger the sample size the closer you get to the actual number. But once again, fraud as to be addressed on a case by case basis. The thing to do is not cut funding by 1.5% to use your number above. You have to find the vendors who are actually committing fraud. Otherwise, they won’t be found out and they’ll just keep right on their merry way of ripping off the government. And, at the same time, you will be hurting clients and honest vendors.
I agree with that. I don't believe that is the Doge methodology at this point. While they are railing against fraud to build support for the program, I believe the cuts are mostly based on political preferences and administrative waste so far.
 
The cuts are based mostly on Trump's personal grievances and little else.
I don't that that's really accurate if you look at the cuts. I know Trump's preferences certainly play a significant part in some things that are cut, but what did a social security office in Franklin, NC do to harm Trump? A US postal vehicle maintenance facility in Raleigh?
 
I don't that that's really accurate if you look at the cuts. I know Trump's preferences certainly play a significant part in some things that are cut, but what did a social security office in Franklin, NC do to harm Trump? A US postal vehicle maintenance facility in Raleigh?
I doubt if Trump is micromanaging these cuts - he's way too lazy for that - but he trusts his loyal MAGA politicians, and their grievances are his grievances.
 
I don't that that's really accurate if you look at the cuts. I know Trump's preferences certainly play a significant part in some things that are cut, but what did a social security office in Franklin, NC do to harm Trump? A US postal vehicle maintenance facility in Raleigh?
Okay
Why does he allow Elon to do this ? It is on orangeturd
 
Yes. The buck stops with Trump. I was simply pointing out its not all Trump's political whims. There is a significant element of cutting administrative overhead.
None of this is about overhead or fraud, or even Trump's whims. It is a pre-planned campaign to break the federal government so that it cannot function, and then to use its brokenness as an excuse to fill in the services by privatizing the work. It is a purposeful, HUGE redistribution of wealth to the oligarchy, exactly like what has been done in Russia, Turkey, Hungary, and elsewhere.
 

Trump is dismantling the Education Department. Here’s what it does​



“… Trump adviser Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency has cut dozens of contracts it dismissed as “woke” and wasteful. It gutted the Institute of Education Sciences, which gathers data on the nation’s academic progress.

The agency’s main role is financial. Annually, it distributes billions in federal money to colleges and schools and manages the federal student loan portfolio. Closing the department would mean redistributing each of those duties to another agency. The Education Department also plays an important regulatory role in services for students, ranging from those with disabilities to low-income and homeless kids.

… The Education Department manages approximately $1.5 trillion in student loan debt for over 40 million borrowers. It also oversees the Pell Grant, which provides aid to students below a certain income threshold, and administers the Free Application for Federal Student Aid ( FAFSA ), which universities use to allocate financial aid.


Through its Office for Civil Rights, the Education Department conducts investigations and issues guidance on how civil rights laws should be applied, such as for LGBTQ+ students and students of color. The office also oversees a large data collection project that tracks disparities in resources, course access and discipline for students of different racial and socioeconomic groups.

Trump has suggested a different interpretation of the office’s civil rights role. Under his administration, the department has instructed the office to prioritize complaints of antisemitism above all else and has opened investigations into colleges and school sports leagues for allowing transgender athletes to compete on women’s teams.

… While the Education Department does not directly accredit colleges and universities, it oversees the system by reviewing all federally recognized accrediting agencies. Institutions of higher education must be accredited to gain access to federal money for student financial aid.


Much of the Education Department’s money for K-12 schools goes through large federal programs, such as Title I for low-income schools and the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. Those programs support services for students with disabilities, lower class sizes with additional teaching positions, and pay for social workers and other non-teaching roles in schools.

During his campaign, Trump called for shifting those functions to the states. He has not offered details on how the agency’s core functions of sending federal money to local districts and schools would be handled. …”
 
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