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gtyellowjacket said:
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That's contradicted by basically all publicly available evidence. If they laid off the nuclear weapons folks and the bird flu folks, and then they had to hire them back, it wasn't performance based, was it?

And the fact that they have been focusing on probationary makes it clear that they aren't targeting performance. Rather, they are firing the people they can most easily fire.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
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Incorrect. Probationary employees aren't on probation bc of work or performance issues. It's a designation given to people who've just joined the government and/or some of those who've been there for years but transfered from different positions.

I'm stil in my early probationary period with the DOD as a civilian employee (EOD 12/2/24) and it doesn't end until 12-2-25 and I haven't even had my first performance review (it's at the end of this month). I'm fairly certain I'll get the top marks as I've been praised for my current work and even had the director of my division point out my current performance on an agency-wide all hands teams meeting. So if I were to get a letter saying I was let go for performance reasons it would absolutely be horseshit and I would sue and win.

Though I'm still in my probationary period, I'm fairly safe bc I'm emergency essential, meaning they would need an exceptionally good reason to let me go bc my job is mission critical.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
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I certainly don’t know the circumstances of every firing that has occurred, but I personally know people who have been let go despite ratings of commendable or outstanding. And I have not seen or heard any indication that that the actual performance of employees plays any roll in who gets fired.
 
NOVAHEEL13 said:
Incorrect. Probationary employees aren't on probation bc of work or performance issues. It's a designation given to people who've just joined the government and/or some of those who've been there for years but transfered from different positions.

I'm stil in my early probationary period with the DOD as a civilian employee (EOD 12/2/24) and it doesn't end until 12-2-25 and I haven't even had my first performance review (it's at the end of this month). I'm fairly certain I'll get the top marks as I've been praised for my current work and even had the director of my division point out my current performance on an agency-wide all hands teams meeting. So if I were to get a letter saying I was let go for performance reasons it would absolutely be horseshit and I would sue and win.

Though I'm still in my probationary period, I'm fairly safe bc I'm emergency essential, meaning they would need an exceptionally good reason to let me go bc my job is mission critical.
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Most companies put new workers on probation. It has nothing to do with performance. It’s just a designation that applies to all new workers.
 
I'm not sure they've thought through the GDP thing. If they exclude GDP from the report, you'll get headlines like:

GDP drops 20% in 1Q!
 
PTOHeel said:
I certainly don’t know the circumstances of every firing that has occurred, but I personally know people who have been let go despite ratings of commendable or outstanding. And I have not seen or heard any indication that that the actual performance of employees plays any roll in who gets fired.
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I'm sure it happens. There's a lot of layoffs. I think performance is one but probably the bigger issue is the program that the employee is working on.
 
Tesla is having a rough time in the European sales department. Across the continent, the story is the same: fewer Tesla sales, more competition and a CEO who keeps making headlines for all of the wrong reasons. The numbers don't lie—while Europe's overall EV sales are up, deliveries for Tesla are down hard, continuing the trend from a rather brutal January, and things don't look like they're letting up anytime soon.

Countries like Norway (which was once Tesla's Scandinavian stronghold) have seemingly lost the love for the American automaker. Sales there are down 48% year-over-year. That's roughly the same as the European-wide drop of 45.2% in January. Denmark and Sweden also saw year-over-year drops of more than 40% for February, while France saw a lesser 25% drop year-over-year according to data first reported by Electrek.

Despite European deliveries falling, Tesla's stock is still out-performing other automakers. Granted, share prices have fallen more than 38% since peaking in December 2024, but the real number to look at—Tesla's price-to-earnings ratio, which shows how much it's worth to how much it earns in profits—is still at a mind-boggling 86. Toyota, the next-highest car manufacturer, sits at a cool 9.01.


So what's happening here? How can Tesla be losing customers at an alarming rate while still be treated like the golden child of wall street?

The answer is a complicated paradox of duality, and its name is Elon Musk.
 
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