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Trump tells World Economic Forum U.S. doesn’t need Canadian oil, gas, autos or lumber

U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday said the United States did not need Canadian oil, gas, autos or lumber and reiterated his suggestion that Canada become the 51st U.S. state.
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U.S. President Donald Trump says his country does not need to import Canadian oil, gas, autos or lumber.

“We’re going to be demanding respect from other nations ... Canada has been very tough to deal with over the years,” he told the World Economic Forum in Davos on Thursday, appearing via video conference before an audience of the world’s most powerful business and political leaders.

“We don’t need them to make our cars, and they make a lot of them. We don’t need their lumber because we have our own forests,” he continued. “We don’t need their oil and gas, we have more than anybody.”
 
^ enjoy your coming toilet paper shortage, something we did not have in Canada during the pandemic.
 
dcphx said:
The problem is that Stephen Miller seems to believe that the proper number of legal immigrants to the United States per year should be zero.
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Stephen Miller doesn't control immigration policy, so he can think whatever he wants.
 
ZenMode said:
There seems to be confusion here. Your response sounds like you believe I want to get rid of birthright citizenship completely. I definitely don't.

While I realize that The drafters of the 14th amendment discussed and debated most every aspect that they could, it's just not possible for them to be able to see into the future. They don't know what they don't know. There are just simply things that they could not have foreseen. For example, bees with which we are able to travel from continent to continent. If it took weeks or months to get here, there would be no concern about pregnant women coming here to give birth. It would be two time-consuming and probably too dangerous. They probably also couldn't have foreseen our currents relationship with Mexico, Central and South America which compels pregnant women to risk their lives to get a few hundred yards into the US to have a child in the middle of the desert.
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I think Super's point is that while you want to nibble around the edges for birthright citizenship, the amendment and its history doesn't allow for nibbling. It leaves no gray area - unless they're the children of invaders or diplomats, they're citizens upon birth.


Not to mention, "it's just not possible for them to be able to see into the future" is a great argument for curtailing the 2nd amendment. Instead, the right has done everything they could to make sure there are no limits, no registries, and no common-sense regulations on gun ownership/use.
 
altmin said:
www.cp24.com

Trump tells World Economic Forum U.S. doesn’t need Canadian oil, gas, autos or lumber

U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday said the United States did not need Canadian oil, gas, autos or lumber and reiterated his suggestion that Canada become the 51st U.S. state.
www.cp24.com www.cp24.com
U.S. President Donald Trump says his country does not need to import Canadian oil, gas, autos or lumber.

“We’re going to be demanding respect from other nations ... Canada has been very tough to deal with over the years,” he told the World Economic Forum in Davos on Thursday, appearing via video conference before an audience of the world’s most powerful business and political leaders.

“We don’t need them to make our cars, and they make a lot of them. We don’t need their lumber because we have our own forests,” he continued. “We don’t need their oil and gas, we have more than anybody.”
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The funny thing is if he wanted the manufacturing to come back to the US, he should consider MCare4All. I remember an article about 20 years ago that said 1/4 of the cost of every car made in US was due to healthcare. I don't remember the specifics, but assume that included the cost of covering employees and retirees. MCare4All would shift the cost of healthcare away from employers.
 


It will be interesting to see whether she has any meaningful power beyond being a talking head. In hearings, it was clear she didn’t know much about the job and has been told by Trump’s inner circle that all immigration matters will be handled from inside the White House by Homan, Trump and Miller.

I’ve read from colleagues of hers when she was in the House who thought she was capable and dedicated then but don’t even recognize her personality and behavior since she has gone full MAGA.
 
nycfan said:


It will be interesting to see whether she has any meaningful power beyond being a talking head. In hearings, it was clear she didn’t know much about the job and has been told by Trump’s inner circle that all immigration matters will be handled from inside the White House by Homan, Trump and Miller.

I’ve read from colleagues of hers when she was in the House who thought she was capable and dedicated then but don’t even recognize her personality and behavior since she has gone full MAGA.
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She genuinely seems like someone who’s had a break.
 
ZenMode said:
Stephen Miller doesn't control immigration policy, so he can think whatever he wants.
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I hope you don't believe that. He's the deputy chief of staff (policy) and the Homeland Security Advisor. He was the architect of Trump 1.0 immigration policy and a major voice in Project 2025. In his role, he will have near unfettered access to Trump and will be one of if not the last voice to be heard by Trump who famously tends to go with the last person he hears from. The US Immigration policy will be Miller's viewpoint.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
If somebody mentioned to me that they agree that Trump should be allowed a 3rd term, I'd punch them in the mouth.
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Before I make the post wanted to say you are correct. I confused how long you have been posting with one of the older posters that you slurped up every post he/she made. I was wrong about how long you have been posting but dead on about you being a total ass, hypocrite and the most bigoted poster on this board.

The pissing and crying I have read on this board on and off this week has been comedy fodder!!

And we are only 6 days in!!!

Enjoy and thanks to most if not all of the dems on this board. YOU and YOUR ilk are the very reason we have Trump 2.0... bigger, stronger, faster and with enough votes to get the jobs done!!
 
dcphx said:
I hope you don't believe that. He's the deputy chief of staff (policy) and the Homeland Security Advisor. He was the architect of Trump 1.0 immigration policy and a major voice in Project 2025. In his role, he will have near unfettered access to Trump and will be one of if not the last voice to be heard by Trump who famously tends to go with the last person he hears from. The US Immigration policy will be Miller's viewpoint.
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As you mention, Stephen Miller was the immigration architect of the first admin; it was openly discussed, and it’s been well known he crafted the campaign's immigration policy, in collaboration with P2025 ghouls.

Zen plays ignorance troll over and over and over again.
 
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dcphx said:
I hope you don't believe that. He's the deputy chief of staff (policy) and the Homeland Security Advisor. He was the architect of Trump 1.0 immigration policy and a major voice in Project 2025. In his role, he will have near unfettered access to Trump and will be one of if not the last voice to be heard by Trump who famously tends to go with the last person he hears from. The US Immigration policy will be Miller's viewpoint.
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Trump can do some things, but he can't just end immigration.
 
Callatoroy said:
Teaching students to follow the law, especially when it comes to border security and national security is a bad thing unless you are driven by emotion and your arrogance allows you to pick and choose which laws to follow. I'm glad that isn't the message UNC is sending.
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This POTUS is a convicted felon and likely rapist. Aren't you the one who is all about hypocrisy?
 
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