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JD Vance breaks taboo by meeting with leader of Germany’s far-right party​

US vice-president meets with AfD leader Alice Weidel as Trump administration courts European populist parties


“… The meeting was the latest in a string of contacts between the party and figures close to Donald Trump. Elon Musk, the billionaire now leading a purge of the US federal government, has repeatedly claimed that “only the AfD can save Germany” and last month hosted Wiedel in a 75-minute live conversation on his social media platform, X.

Addressing the Munich security conference earlier on Friday, Vance admonished Europe’s leaders for refusing to work with their far-right parties.

…The move sent shockwaves through German political circles as the Trump administrationappeared to be making a large bet on some of the continent’s most toxic parties in opposition to the sitting governments in the UK, Germany and other major allies. …”





 

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STAT’s analysis of the data deleted since the inauguration show the word “gender” has drawn particular attention. This is not especially surprising, as many public health datasets capture data about gender and, until now, many datasets tended to use the terms “gender” and “sex” somewhat interchangeably. Trump’s executive order on “gender ideology”specifically forbids all federal agencies from using the word “gender” instead of “sex.” I identified at least 67 items that appear to have been removed specifically because they contain the word “gender,” regardless of the context in which it was used.

Other items seem to have run afoul of other flagged words and concepts. Notable examples include datasets related to the Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance System (YRBSS) and the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System(BRFSS), which both capture data on now sensitive topics like gender identity and sexual orientation.

Curiously, the webpages for both of these datasets have been republished on the main CDC website following a court order. However, these datasets have not yet been republished to data.cdc.gov. …”

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Lots of detail in the linked article.
 
Founded in 2013 as an anti-European Union party, AfD has since radicalized and become an extremist, anti-immigrant party whose aim is “to eliminate the free democratic basic order,” according to a 2023 report by the German Institute for Human Rights.

The German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz or BfV), its domestic intelligence agency which monitors extremist threats to Germany’s democracy, has listed AfD as an officially suspected extremist organization and classified its youth wing, “Young Alternative,” as extremist in April 2023. The state-level BfV offices in Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt, and Thuringia have gone a step further and classified the AfD party as a whole as extremist.

Björn Höcke, leader of the AfD party in the state of Thuringia, has twice been fined by a German court for using a banned Nazi slogan. The phrase, “Everything for Germany” (“Alles für Deutschland”) was a slogan of the Nazi stormtroopers and engraved on their daggers….called for Germany to stop atoning for Nazi crimes and make a "180-degree turn" in how it remembers its past.

Gauland also said in 2017 that Germans should be “proud of the achievements of German soldiers in two world wars.”

Höcke has engaged in extremist speech to the extent that a judge ruled that he could be described as a fascist without fear of a defamation suit, because such a description was a “value judgment based on facts.”

AfD leaders have also threatened to deport German citizens of non-ethnic-German heritage.

In its 2017 election manifesto, AfD asserted that the presence of Muslims in Germany was a threat to the country: “Islam does not belong in Germany. The AfD sees the spread of Islam and the presence of over 5 million Muslims, whose numbers are constantly growing, as a great danger to our state, our society and our system of values.”[2]

AfD members were exposed as participants in a November 2023 secret meeting of far-right extremists in Potsdam, including Austrian neo-Nazi Martin Sellner, who discussed a mass deportation plan for foreigners and "non-assimilated" Germans, as part of AfD’s strategy should it be elected to govern Germany.

Following the exposure of the secret meeting, AfD politicians initially denied participating, but just weeks later began actively campaigning with the slogan, “remigration,” which was the term used at the meeting for the mass deportation plan.


The US government is intentionally elevating the profile of a German christonationlist, white supremacist, party.

If ten people are at dinner, and one of them is a Nazi …
 
Founded in 2013 as an anti-European Union party, AfD has since radicalized and become an extremist, anti-immigrant party whose aim is “to eliminate the free democratic basic order,” according to a 2023 report by the German Institute for Human Rights.

The German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz or BfV), its domestic intelligence agency which monitors extremist threats to Germany’s democracy, has listed AfD as an officially suspected extremist organization and classified its youth wing, “Young Alternative,” as extremist in April 2023. The state-level BfV offices in Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt, and Thuringia have gone a step further and classified the AfD party as a whole as extremist.

Björn Höcke, leader of the AfD party in the state of Thuringia, has twice been fined by a German court for using a banned Nazi slogan. The phrase, “Everything for Germany” (“Alles für Deutschland”) was a slogan of the Nazi stormtroopers and engraved on their daggers….called for Germany to stop atoning for Nazi crimes and make a "180-degree turn" in how it remembers its past.

Gauland also said in 2017 that Germans should be “proud of the achievements of German soldiers in two world wars.”

Höcke has engaged in extremist speech to the extent that a judge ruled that he could be described as a fascist without fear of a defamation suit, because such a description was a “value judgment based on facts.”

AfD leaders have also threatened to deport German citizens of non-ethnic-German heritage.

In its 2017 election manifesto, AfD asserted that the presence of Muslims in Germany was a threat to the country: “Islam does not belong in Germany. The AfD sees the spread of Islam and the presence of over 5 million Muslims, whose numbers are constantly growing, as a great danger to our state, our society and our system of values.”[2]

AfD members were exposed as participants in a November 2023 secret meeting of far-right extremists in Potsdam, including Austrian neo-Nazi Martin Sellner, who discussed a mass deportation plan for foreigners and "non-assimilated" Germans, as part of AfD’s strategy should it be elected to govern Germany.

Following the exposure of the secret meeting, AfD politicians initially denied participating, but just weeks later began actively campaigning with the slogan, “remigration,” which was the term used at the meeting for the mass deportation plan.


The US government is intentionally elevating the profile of a German christonationlist, white supremacist, party.

If ten people are at dinner, and one of them is a Nazi …
Amazon Prime Video GIF by The Man in the High Castle
 


Yikes. Michael Beschloss might have a stroke — he has been outraged since Melania pulled out Jackie’s flowers for a sterile replacement.
 


Yikes. Michael Beschloss might have a stroke — he has been outraged since Melania pulled out Jackie’s flowers for a sterile replacement.

This really doesn't need to be reported. I mean, who fucking cares? Maybe it's just me, but I think this story diminishes Trump's actual crimes.
 
This really doesn't need to be reported. I mean, who fucking cares? Maybe it's just me, but I think this story diminishes Trump's actual crimes.
Probably just you? This type of thing is always reported. If it becomes a major story, then that would be problematic.
 
Who knows what straw? The incessant mindless throw something against the wall stuff worked against Hillary and the party in an earlier iteration. I'll take anything self inflicted that could help.
 
Probably just you? This type of thing is always reported. If it becomes a major story, then that would be problematic.
I've never claimed to have my finger on the pulse of popular opinion. It just seems like it's something that's always reported . . . in normal times. But we're looking at multiple constitutional crises plus the absolute corruption of the DOJ and the rose garden just seems so utterly insignificant.

But it would certainly not be the first time where my intellectual priorities differ from that of the public.
 
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