Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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Callatoroy said:
Yes, I am. Because trump hasn't followed society's standards, that has no bearing on what we should be teaching students with respect to national security and our borders. Not a very good argument on your part. Our institutions of higher learning should be setting an example of following the law and because 1 person didn't in certain cases doesn't mean the goal of teaching society to follow the law is out of the window.
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It has all the bearing in the world. Thoughts without actions are hypocritical and counterproductive. A society that elects Donald Trump cannot teach anything of moral or ethical value to any of its members. The ideas are simply incongruent with the larger action demonstrated by the society itself.

People who fervently work against Donald Trump and everything he stands for as well as oppose those who enable him are the only possible path to teaching the rule of law or a moral society in general.

Donald Trump is a terminal cancer on our society. We likely have exceeded the timeline for dealing with that cancer. We certainly won't deal with it by pretending his utter antipathy toward the law doesn't exist.
 
nycfan said:

Trump officials issue quotas to ICE officers to ramp up arrests​

The administration wants to increase the number of arrests from a few hundred per day to at least 1,200 to 1,500, increasing the chances that non-criminals will be detained.


“U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials have been directed by Trump officials to aggressively ramp up the number of people they arrest, from a few hundred per day to at least 1,200 to 1,500, because the president has been disappointed with the results of his mass deportation campaign so far, according to four people with knowledge of the briefings.

… White House “border czar” Tom Homan has said for weeks that ICE would not conduct mass roundups and its officers would prioritize immigrants with criminal records and who are gang members. But the quotas issued this weekend would place ICE officers under more pressure to seize a wider range of potential deportees to avoid reprimand, including immigrants who have not committed crimes.

… ICE officers deployed aggressively during President Donald Trump’s first week in office, boosting the number of immigrants taken into custody from fewer than 400 on Tuesday to nearly 600 on Friday. The number declined to 286 on Saturday, according to ICE. …”
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If they can meet their goal of 1500 per day and do so 365 days a year, they’ll meet the goal of deporting 20 million people in about 40 years.
 
wmheel1287 said:
It has all the bearing in the world. Thoughts without actions are hypocritical and counterproductive. A society that elects Donald Trump cannot teach anything of moral or ethical value to any of its members. The ideas are simply incongruent with the larger action demonstrated by the society itself.

People who fervently work against Donald Trump and everything he stands for as well as oppose those who enable him are the only possible path to teaching the rule of law or a moral society in general.

Donald Trump is a terminal cancer on our society. We likely have exceeded the timeline for dealing with that cancer. We certainly won't deal with it by pretending his utter antipathy toward the law doesn't exist.
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The University of North Carolina didn't elect trump. Teaching its students to uphold the law and following federal law has no bearing on who the country elects. The university should be politically neutral and focus on its mission of educating students, not playing politics.
 

Colombia’s President Gustavo Petro buckles under Trump’s trade war threat — offers presidential plane for deportation flights​


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Colombian President Gustavo Petro quickly reversed course about accepting flights of deported migrants from the US after President Donald Trump threatened emergency tariffs of up to 50% on the South American country for refusing to cooperate.

Petro not only acquiesced to Trump’s demands, he even offered up the official Colombian presidential plane to help shuttle migrants back to the country, calling it a response to “the Government’s commitment to guarantee decent conditions.”

“The Government of Colombia, under the direction of President Gustavo Petro, has arranged the presidential plane to facilitate the dignified return of the compatriots who were going to arrive in the country today in the morning, coming from deportation flights,” a translated official statement read in part. …”

nypost.com

Colombia’s President Gustavo Petro buckles under Trump’s trade war threat — offers presidential plane for deportation flights

“The Government of Colombia, under the direction of President Gustavo Petro, has arranged the presidential plane to facilitate the dignified return of the compatriots.”
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Other outlets don’t seem to be reporting this translation, so I guess we shall see.

@donbosco — have you read the response by any chance?

 
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Callatoroy said:
The University of North Carolina didn't elect trump. Teaching its students to uphold the law and following federal law has no bearing on who the country elects. The university should be politically neutral and focus on its mission of educating students, not playing politics.
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And im not speaking about the micro issue of ahat UNC does or doesn't do. I'm speaking about the absolute impossibility to seriously tout the value of following the law while simultaneously slurping Donald Trump. The fact that it comes from the self-anointed hypocrisy monitor is just beyond the pale.

Simply put...support for Donald Trump yields one neutered from commentary on who should and should not follow the laws of this nation.
 
MendotoManteo said:
There are four terms by which I say you can gauge a moron.

1. They call other people "sheep."
2. They call other people "sheeple."
3. They say, "your ilk."
4. They describe themselves as a "free thinker."
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Well, shit. I like using "your ilk" when talking about their ilk. Guess I'll have to either reconsider or not give a damn. Mmm, which seems easiest.
 
Transporting the deportees on civilian passenger planes without being restrained was always Petro’s primary demand. He’s not “buckling under”. That is typical NY Post bullshit.
 
UNCatTech said:
Yea, the point was more how does it work.

My company laid off the entire training and most of the quality team last year. Guess what, training and quality are now big issues. Labor cost savings are not always greater than the other issues they cause.

I'm sort of hoping they lay off the engineering department this year. I'd be ok with a year's pay and time to plan for the future.
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Just think how much you could post while unemployed!
 
nycfan said:

Colombia’s President Gustavo Petro buckles under Trump’s trade war threat — offers presidential plane for deportation flights​


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Colombian President Gustavo Petro quickly reversed course about accepting flights of deported migrants from the US after President Donald Trump threatened emergency tariffs of up to 50% on the South American country for refusing to cooperate.

Petro not only acquiesced to Trump’s demands, he even offered up the official Colombian presidential plane to help shuttle migrants back to the country, calling it a response to “the Government’s commitment to guarantee decent conditions.”

“The Government of Colombia, under the direction of President Gustavo Petro, has arranged the presidential plane to facilitate the dignified return of the compatriots who were going to arrive in the country today in the morning, coming from deportation flights,” a translated official statement read in part. …”

nypost.com

Colombia’s President Gustavo Petro buckles under Trump’s trade war threat — offers presidential plane for deportation flights

“The Government of Colombia, under the direction of President Gustavo Petro, has arranged the presidential plane to facilitate the dignified return of the compatriots.”
nypost.com nypost.com

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Other outlets don’t seem to be reporting this translation, so I guess we shall see.

@donbosco — have you read the response by any chance?
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Transporting the deportees on civilian passenger planes without being restrained was always Petro’s primary demand. He’s not “buckling under”. That is typical NY Post bullshit.
 
nycfan said:

Colombia’s President Gustavo Petro buckles under Trump’s trade war threat — offers presidential plane for deportation flights​


“
Colombian President Gustavo Petro quickly reversed course about accepting flights of deported migrants from the US after President Donald Trump threatened emergency tariffs of up to 50% on the South American country for refusing to cooperate.

Petro not only acquiesced to Trump’s demands, he even offered up the official Colombian presidential plane to help shuttle migrants back to the country, calling it a response to “the Government’s commitment to guarantee decent conditions.”

“The Government of Colombia, under the direction of President Gustavo Petro, has arranged the presidential plane to facilitate the dignified return of the compatriots who were going to arrive in the country today in the morning, coming from deportation flights,” a translated official statement read in part. …”

nypost.com

Colombia’s President Gustavo Petro buckles under Trump’s trade war threat — offers presidential plane for deportation flights

“The Government of Colombia, under the direction of President Gustavo Petro, has arranged the presidential plane to facilitate the dignified return of the compatriots.”
nypost.com nypost.com

——
Other outlets don’t seem to be reporting this translation, so I guess we shall see.

@donbosco — have you read the response by any chance?
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“… Hours after Trump’s announcement, Colombian President Gustavo Petro said he ordered the commerce ministry to raise tariffs on US imports by 25%. “I am informed that you impose a 50% tariff on the fruits of our human labor to enter the United States, and I do the same,” Petro wrote in a long post on X aimed at Trump, before he announced the 25% tax on US goods.

… Petro responded dismissively to Trump’s announcement, writing on social media, “Trump, I don’t really like traveling to the US, it’s a bit boring.” He went on to criticize Trump’s policies and character, even suggesting the US president considers “me an inferior race and I’m not, nor is any Colombian.”

The US Embassy in Colombia suspended visa processing in retaliation for Colombia’s refusal to accept repatriation flights, a State Department official told CNN on Sunday evening. The suspension applies to immigrant and non-immigrant visas, which typically number in the thousands each day.

American Citizens Services will continue as normal, the official said. They stressed that the situation is fluid. …”

 
finesse said:
Well, shit. I like using "your ilk" when talking about their ilk. Guess I'll have to either reconsider or not give a damn. Mmm, which seems easiest.
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Sorry, lol. I probably should move it to my "it's complicated" terms, like "constitutional conservative." I've used it myself. But I just see so many of that, well, ilk, using the term. So I avoid it.
 
"I was wrong about how long you have been posting but dead on about you being a total ass, hypocrite and the most bigoted poster on this board."

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