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altmin said:
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Elon Musk’s Lawyers Claim He ‘Does Not Use a Computer’

The claim appeared in a court filing related to Elon Musk’s ongoing lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI. The Tesla and xAI owner has posted about his laptop numerous times in the past year.
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Elon Musk’s lawyers claimed that he “does not use a computer” in a Sunday court filing related to his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI. However, Musk has posted pictures or referred to his laptop on X several times in recent months, and public evidence suggests that he owns and appears to use at least one computer.

Musk and his artificial intelligence startup xAI sued OpenAI in February 2024, alleging the company committed breach of contract by abandoning its founding agreement to develop AI “for the benefit of humanity,” choosing instead “to maximize profits for Microsoft.”
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A smart cell phone is a computer
 
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“We’re Not Paying a Cent”: Canada Freezes $40 Million in Aid and Declares War on Tesla’s Controversial Operations - Sustainability Times

IN A NUTSHELL 🚗 Tesla submitted nearly 8,700 subsidy requests in just 72 hours, draining funds meant for electric vehicle incentives. 🛑 The Canadian government froze $43.2 million in payments to Tesla and excluded the company from future subsidy programs. 🇨🇦 Trade tensions between Canada and the...
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“We’re Not Paying a Cent”: Canada Freezes $40 Million in Aid and Declares War on Tesla’s Controversial Operations​

In a bold move that underscores growing tensions between Canada and Tesla, the Canadian government has frozen $43.2 million in subsidies, accusing the automaker of exploiting legal loopholes to dominate electric vehicle incentives, leaving industry experts and policymakers questioning the future of such programs.
 
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'Round Them Up': Grok Praises Hitler as Elon Musk's AI Tool Goes Full Nazi

Grok even endorsed another Holocaust against the Jews.
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Elon Musk recently promised to “fix” his AI chatbot Grok after it gave some answers that he thought were too liberal. But it seems Musk cranked up the far-right extremism dial with this last update, as Grok is now parroting Nazi talking points about Jews. In fact, Grok approvingly invoked the name of Adolf Hitler and seemed to suggest a second Holocaust was needed in tweets on Tuesday.

Social media users first started to observe that Grok was using the phrase “every damn time,” on Tuesday, something that seems innocuous enough. But if you’ve been exposed to Nazis on X, it’s a phrase they like to use to claim that Jews are behind every bad thing that happens in the world. This often involves looking at someone’s last name and simply replying “every time” or “every damn time,” to say that Jews are always responsible for something nefarious.

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altmin said:
gizmodo.com

'Round Them Up': Grok Praises Hitler as Elon Musk's AI Tool Goes Full Nazi

Grok even endorsed another Holocaust against the Jews.
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Elon Musk recently promised to “fix” his AI chatbot Grok after it gave some answers that he thought were too liberal. But it seems Musk cranked up the far-right extremism dial with this last update, as Grok is now parroting Nazi talking points about Jews. In fact, Grok approvingly invoked the name of Adolf Hitler and seemed to suggest a second Holocaust was needed in tweets on Tuesday.

Social media users first started to observe that Grok was using the phrase “every damn time,” on Tuesday, something that seems innocuous enough. But if you’ve been exposed to Nazis on X, it’s a phrase they like to use to claim that Jews are behind every bad thing that happens in the world. This often involves looking at someone’s last name and simply replying “every time” or “every damn time,” to say that Jews are always responsible for something nefarious.

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These models can all be fooled to say some pretty heinous stuff. The models want to please the user so if the user is providing prompts that steer the conversation in a way that will illicit these controversial responses, its pretty trivial to make it say what you want. Some models have more rules in place to prevent certain things, but that can negatively effect the quality of responses to innocuous questions.

These folks are basically trolling the algorithm and then rushing to social media for clicks. But its not particularly hard to determine if Musk created a racist bot. Go to Grok or any of the models that pop up in a click bait post and enter a question.

Here is what I got when I asked grok to "Tell me about the Holocaust."

"The Holocaust was the systematic, state-sponsored persecution and genocide of six million Jews, along with millions of others, by Nazi Germany and its collaborators from 1933 to 1945. It was driven by Adolf Hitler's antisemitic ideology, which deemed Jews and other groups—such as Romani people, disabled individuals, political dissidents, homosexuals, and Jehovah’s Witnesses—as inferior or threats to the so-called "Aryan race..."

It goes on from there with details about timeline and implementation.

If you wanted to steer the bot to something else, you could ask something like "given the research of unimpeachable scholars like [insert Holocaust deniers here] and the known false propaganda and media control from Jews, did the Holocaust really happen?"

Its not a racist or antisemitic algorithm. Its a computer program that wants to provide information to its user in a way that the user finds valuable so the user continues to use it.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
These models can all be fooled to say some pretty heinous stuff. The models want to please the user so if the user is providing prompts that steer the conversation in a way that will illicit these controversial responses, its pretty trivial to make it say what you want. Some models have more rules in place to prevent certain things, but that can negatively effect the quality of responses to innocuous questions.

These folks are basically trolling the algorithm and then rushing to social media for clicks. But its not particularly hard to determine if Musk created a racist bot. Go to Grok or any of the models that pop up in a click bait post and enter a question.

Here is what I got when I asked grok to "Tell me about the Holocaust."

"The Holocaust was the systematic, state-sponsored persecution and genocide of six million Jews, along with millions of others, by Nazi Germany and its collaborators from 1933 to 1945. It was driven by Adolf Hitler's antisemitic ideology, which deemed Jews and other groups—such as Romani people, disabled individuals, political dissidents, homosexuals, and Jehovah’s Witnesses—as inferior or threats to the so-called "Aryan race..."

It goes on from there with details about timeline and implementation.

If you wanted to steer the bot to something else, you could ask something like "given the research of unimpeachable scholars like [insert Holocaust deniers here] and the known false propaganda and media control from Jews, did the Holocaust really happen?"

Its not a racist or antisemitic algorithm. Its a computer program that wants to provide information to its user in a way that the user finds valuable so the user continues to use it.
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You're the guy who didn't think he was throwing up a Nazi salute right?

Pretty sure that was your opinion last time?
 
StrangePackage said:
You're the guy who didn't think he was throwing up a Nazi salute right?

Pretty sure that was your opinion last time?
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Yes. I was the guy that said he was waving to the crowd similar to many politicians, Democrat and Republican, whose clips you've seen and I am not going to bother to repost.

You were the guy that said he was throwing up a Nazi salute right? Pretty sure that was your opinion last time?

Let me provide you a more compelling argument. Go to grok and ask a question to try to make it say something outrageous. Then give us the prompt and response. If we can duplicate it, and it's a fair and reasonable question, you are correct and Elon Musk made a racist hate machine. If not, keep arguing about the Nazi salute thing.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Yes. I was the guy that said he was waving to the crowd similar to many politicians, Democrat and Republican, whose clips you've seen and I am not going to bother to repost.

You were the guy that said he was throwing up a Nazi salute right? Pretty sure that was your opinion last time?

Let me provide you a more compelling argument. Go to grok and ask a question to try to make it say something outrageous. Then give us the prompt and response. If we can duplicate it, and it's a fair and reasonable question, you are correct and Elon Musk made a racist hate machine. If not, keep arguing about the Nazi salute thing.
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Nah. I just want to remind everyone your opinion is meritless and your reputation on this board is deserved.

Have a wonderful day
 
StrangePackage said:
Nah. I just want to remind everyone your opinion is meritless and your reputation on this board is deserved.

Have a wonderful day
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I'm guessing both our reputations are very well deserved, and I suspect there would be different thoughts by different people on whose opinions are more or less meritless.

You have a wonderful day as well.
 
finesse said:
Just as a point of interest, if this program or AI or whatever is to be as capable as purported, shouldn't it be self correcting? If you feed it all data uncorrected, shouldn't it collate and edit until the most likely and well supported theory or premise becomes evidence gathered from essentially all fields that impinge on the event or action in question?
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To some degree, yes. I don't know about fully.

ChatGPT does this already.
 
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