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Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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Callatoroy said:
You’re right. Keep on running on transgender rights and undermining parents. Keep on “defunding”. Keep on with your open borders policies. Expand your wokeness. Find ever new ways to to attack those who disagree with you with “ists”, “ots”, and “phobics”. All of that is working so well for you. 90% of this board is so whacked out that you think your arrogance and condescension is somehow charismatic in the eyes of voters.
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I don't think you're having a good faith argument here.

Nobody is for "open borders," so if you want to do something other than parrot falsehoods that have proven effective in republican messaging focus groups, you'll need to at least attempt to deal with/describe actual reality.

Also, I don't know that anyone ran on transgender rights, or undermining parents. It was/is much more important to liberals like myself to run on using tax money to help people out, rather than prioritizing the pocketbooks of the super-rich.

"Arrogance and condescension" is a sword that cuts both ways, and conservatives are just as guilty of it as democrats. Voters in this country are pretty much an even split 35/35, so it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to talk about what "the voters" want.
 
Paine said:


Wow.
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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Absolute gift to liberals IMO. Gaetz is hilariously unqualified to be AG. You may be able to count on one hand the number of times he's been in a courtroom representing clients. And if he gets confirmed (huge if, IMO - he has few friends among establishment Republicans) he will do the job of AG so loudly and cartoonishly poorly that it will help turn people against Trump.
 
rodoheel said:
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Absolute gift to liberals IMO. Gaetz is hilariously unqualified to be AG. You may be able to count on one hand the number of times he's been in a courtroom representing clients. And if he gets confirmed (huge if, IMO - he has few friends among establishment Republicans) he will do the job of AG so loudly and cartoonishly poorly that it will help turn people against Trump.
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His qualification is genuflection and likely a personal commitment to focus his energy on persecuting whomever ttump demands to be persecuted. If I’m the Clintons, Fauci, Jack Smith, (insert boogeyman), I’m leaving the country, post haste. Hell, if I’m a high profile university administrator, faculty, or journalist, with a history of criticizing the regime, I have a thorough exit plan awaiting initiation.
 
HeelingAg said:
His qualification is genuflection and likely a personal commitment to focus his energy on persecuting whomever ttump demands to be persecuted. If I’m the Clintons, Fauci, Jack Smith, (insert boogeyman), I’m leaving the country, post haste. Hell, if I’m a high profile university administrator, faculty, or journalist, with a history of criticizing the regime, I have a thorough exit plan awaiting initiation.
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It is one thing to prosecute those people and another thing entirely to get a conviction. Gaetz trying to persecute the Clintons, Bidens, and Fauci on trumped-up charges (no pun intended) will be a massive strategic error, IMO. Trumpism does not have nearly the ideological mandate it thinks it does and that stuff will turn off everyone. You can't run on ending lawfare then just openly do 5x more lawfare than ever before. His MAGA base will love it but everyone else will hate it.
 
rodoheel said:
It is one thing to prosecute those people and another thing entirely to get a conviction. Gaetz trying to persecute the Clintons, Bidens, and Fauci on trumped-up charges (no pun intended) will be a massive strategic error, IMO. Trumpism does not have nearly the ideological mandate it thinks it does and that stuff will turn off everyone. You can't run on ending lawfare then just openly do 5x more lawfare than ever before. His MAGA base will love it but everyone else will hate it.
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But how much will eggs cost?
 
UNCBAdookJD said:
At this point I just have to laugh. Clearly nobody who values their law license or reputation as a lawyer wanted in on this clown show.
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Doubt it's a matter of lawyers with no scruples saying no to Trump, it's Trump is picking the worst people he can because he knows no one will stop him. If you make your entire cabinet as bad as you, then "fuck everyone I will do what I want. "
 
altmin said:
Doubt it's a matter of lawyers with no scruples saying no to Trump, it's Trump is picking the worst people he can because he knows no one will stop him. If you make your entire cabinet as bad as you, then "fuck everyone I will do what I want. "
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He's not picking the worst people he can, he's just picking the people most loyal to him. Those people just happen to also be the worst people.
 
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