Trump Voters already having buyer’s remorse.

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CallMeTyler said:
The arrogance of that letter. These folks can rightly fuck off a pier. I hope for an abundance of misery for all of them.
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I do too, and I am one of them (ethnically speaking, not ideologically). I still have family living in Dearborn Heights, Birmingham, and in Franklin. Really one of the more dumbfounding stances I've seen from a group in this election cycle.
 
CFordUNC said:


#Mandate
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Yeah, but it won't make any difference to Trumpers and most of the news media. They'll continue claiming that he won an epic victory in a landslide - one of the bigglyest ever, no doubt. In truth this is going to end up as a narrow victory, especially in the popular vote, and Trump's "mandate", if he has one, is by the slimmest of margins. But given that they're Republicans they'll govern as if he won 65% of the vote. George W. Bush did that as well - he beat Gore by the tiniest of margins, but governed like he'd won in a landslide. And you can argue that it eventually backfired, if not on him then on his party in 2006 and 2008. We'll see what happens this time, I guess.
 
altmin said:
Still not great that half the country chose not to vote for a person who could coherently string two sentences together and didn't spend the last two months of the campaign yelling about black people when he was dementia swaying to the Village people.

America deserves it fall.
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This is the take^^^
The United States of America deserves everything it’s gonna get in the next 4 years, and beyond. The changes coming may be irrevocably damaging. It’s been a bumpy ride the past 250 years. But this failed experiment is about to come crashing down, and the remainder of the world can have at the remains.

So who do you think benefits the most? Russia? China? Middle East power brokers? (Includes Saudi, Iran, Taliban, Hamas, etc. etc.); European Union? Other?
 
Centerpiece said:
This is the take^^^
The United States of America deserves everything it’s gonna get in the next 4 years, and beyond. The changes coming may be irrevocably damaging. It’s been a bumpy ride the past 250 years. But this failed experiment is about to come crashing down, and the remainder of the world can have at the remains.

So who do you think benefits the most? Russia? China? Middle East power brokers? (Includes Saudi, Iran, Taliban, Hamas, etc. etc.); European Union? Other?
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Trump and friends.
 
CallMeTyler said:
The arrogance of that letter. These folks can rightly fuck off a pier. I hope for an abundance of misery for all of them.
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Yup. They have destroyed their relationship with the only allies they have in this country.

That said, as in the case of Latinos, lots of them voted for Harris so that should always be recognized.
 
milom98 said:
The county in KY that I live in has had substantial improvements in infrastructure, jobs coming to the county via it's small manufacturing park being able to expand, numerous small businesses opening... in the last four years, yet it went to Trump 81% - 18%.

There is no immigrant invasion of the country or any counties around it. But the farmers in the county don't mind employing illegals for cheap seasonal labor and everyone is fine with that.

There are no trans athletes trying to play sports in the county or surrounding counties. Would guarantee you that 99.9% of the residents in the county have never even met a trans person.

There have been 2 or 3 bridges replaced and repairs made to others. Miles of new road laid down all over the country (you couldn't go anywhere without running into a road crew). A new state of the art elementary school is currently under construction and the other schools in the county have been given facelifts and expanded.

For the first time in forever, a few small manufacturing business have opened up shop in the county and provided local jobs. Unemployment is at lows the county hasn't seen since the 70's, when there was a large sewing factory and a couple other manufacturing businesses providing jobs before they closed. Wages in the county have increased at a rate higher than the national average.

Numerous new locally owned eateries have opened up and stay packed full with people. And eating at them isn't cheap. What you'd pay for a breakfast plate at one of these places would feed a few people if you used that money to buy the same stuff at a grocery store.

The floundering county fair has been revamped with the help of donations from local businesses and has seen it's biggest crowds ever the past two years. I'm talking about vehicles lined up for a good mile or more in both directions to get into the fair. This despite the prices to get into the fair, ride the rides .. all going up significantly.

Home construction has boomed in the county and shows no signs of slowing down. Of course this has pissed off a lot of folks who don't like these new subdivisions coming to their quiet little areas. They use the 'we like to know who our neighbors are' defense.

And this isn't recent, but the ACA reduced the number of uninsured from 30+ percent to around 10%.

And the people here see all this growth in the county and talk about how great it is (well, except the housing thing). But the county decided all that wasn't enough and voted for "change." Smgdh

And I'm sure that this is indictive of countless counties across the country. Basically, we're getting fucked by all the idiots that the GOP has brainwashed into voting against their own self interest.
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Quoting myself here because I forgot to mention one prettyimportant thing - For almost 2 decades, complaints about the rural internet service in the county have been universal. Either you had service that was really slow or you didn't even have service offered to you. If you had service, it was only offered by one ISP (Windstream) and it was DSL over old copper telephone lines that usually maxed out at 10mbps. Well guess what? The Biden admin's broadband initiative has spurred 2 new ISPs to move into the county that offer hi-speed 1gig fiber internet service to many residents. This caused the old ISP (Windstream) to have to step up it's game and actually make major upgrades in order to try and keep it's customers. So almost everyone in the county now has access to real hi-speed internet.

It's probably been 2 years since I've heard a complaint about Internet service from anyone besides the old folks complaining it cost too much (hint - it doesn't). And people use to flood the local news paper's letters to the editor section with complaint after complaint about the poor internet service.
superrific said:
This x1000. Thank you for providing a dose of reality. All politics in America have become identity politics.
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Yeah. And when the wheels fall off the wagon over the next four years and the next election rolls around, the GOP can count on very similar numbers in the county for their next nominee.

I imagine the excuse will be something along the lines of "Biden made such a mess that Trump couldn't clean it up in four years, so let's give ole JD Vance a chance to fit it."
 
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ChapelHillSooner said:
Maybe but could also end very badly for Trump and his sycophants. Destroying the country and economy can have consequences.

I will have popcorn ready assuming my emaciated self doesn’t raid the popcorn first.
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There is nothing he can do to lose his adoring cult followers. Nothing. He could burn a bible on live TV. He could wipe his arse with the pages. He could eat a baby like a Big Kahuna Burger and enjoy a tasty Diet Coke to wash it down and his cult would not flinch. They are beyond saving. He could light their house on fire with Maw Maw still inside and they'd wonder why the Democrats did this to them. They are beyond saving.
 
MOUNTAINH33L said:
There is nothing he can do to lose his adoring cult followers. Nothing. He could burn a bible on live TV. He could wipe his arse with the pages. He could eat a baby like a Big Kahuna Burger and enjoy a tasty Diet Coke to wash it down and his cult would not flinch. They are beyond saving. He could light their house on fire with Maw Maw still inside and they'd wonder why the Democrats did this to them. They are beyond saving.
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All true. And I'd like to see it all happen... as long as ChapelHillSooner will share their popcorn while we watch on the TV
 
CFordUNC said:
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Oopsies.


In a video obtained by CNN’s Andrew Kaczynski during Huckabee’s 2015 run for president, Huckabee suggested that if a Palestinian state were to be created, it should be in neighboring countries like Egypt, Syria or Jordan, rather than within Israel’s borders.

“Basically, there really is no such thing as — I need to be careful about saying this, because people will really get upset — there’s really no such thing as a Palestinian,” Huckabee said at a 2008 campaign stop in Massachusetts while speaking to two Orthodox Jewish men. “There’s not.”

In response to a question from one of the men about the possibility of a Palestinian state existing outside of Israel, Huckabee said he believed this was the preferable option.

“You have Arabs and Persians,” Huckabee continued at the 2008 appearance. “And there’s such complexity in that. But there’s really no such thing. That’s been a political tool to try and force land away from Israel.”
 
CFordUNC said:
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I think what people often miss about MAGA is that it dominance cosplay. Again, it's worth considering the common themes in all of Trump's presidential runs. It's always about other people paying us for the privilege of serving us. Mexico paying for the wall; foreigners paying through the nose to do business in America; NATO paying us; etc. etc.

MAGAs think this will work because it works on them. Trump shits on them; they love it; they ask for more. The relationship between Trumpers and Trump is not all that different than intimate partner violence.

So of course Trumpers then turn around and try to repay that in their personal lives. They expect to be able to do and say unspeakable things to us, and we will roll over and give them what they crave just like they rolled over for Trump. That's the story.

I first realized this in 16 when I saw how the mouth-breathers were using Trump's victory aggressively. Remember the guy banned from Delta flights because he started shouting "Trump, bitches" at other passengers? There were kids across the country who were using Trump to bully Hispanic kids in school (I know; I was there). Now look at the reactions from every single one of our GOP posters. It's basically regurgitated, "Scoreboard!"

That's what MAGA is all about. Dominance and submission. Scapegoating of the other. Liberatory hatred. It has never been about jobs, about returning manufacturing, about inflation, about cost of living -- it's not about any of that. And one way to know that is that Trump never did anything about those things and he lost no support for failing to do so. None.
 
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