UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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Heart says UNC 22-21 because I absolutely positively effing loathe and despise those inbred MFers more than I can put into suitable words.

Head says State 31-14 because I have watched us play all year, and have watched us play State for the last 25 years and only seen us beat them 9 times.
 
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CFordUNC said:
I know I’m beating a dead horse here but if that truly is his strategy, to play a bunch of 18 year-old freshmen all over the field, we are going to be right back here a year from now sitting at 4-8. It goes without saying that I would love to be wrong.
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If we're right back here, he'll be gone and we'll (hopefully) do a legit search to bring in the best coach we can get. And that coach will have a cupboard much fuller than what BB walked into, thanks to what Lombardi and Belichick are doing right now.
 
Peppers49 said:
I really can’t imagine looking at Lombardi’s resume and hearing all of the buffoonish things he says and still defending the guy. It cracks me up thinking about how all of the stuffy boosters reacted when that asinine 76ers process manifesto hit their email inbox lol. They deserve it though for signing off on him.

It’s so embarrassing that he’s associated with UNC and getting paid like 3x the amount of any other college GM. What a joke.
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Isn't HD's GM making over a million?
 
stankeylegjones said:
If we're right back here, he'll be gone and we'll (hopefully) do a legit search to bring in the best coach we can get. And that coach will have a cupboard much fuller than what BB walked into, thanks to what Lombardi and Belichick are doing right now.
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Agree with the first sentiment, but very few recruiting classes are going to stick around anymore when the coach that recruited them isn’t going to be there. We would need to hire a coach that theoretically could bring some good players with him from wherever he was.

Either way, I’m certainly hoping and pulling for it all to work out and for it to be a moot point.
 
CFordUNC said:
Agree with the first sentiment, but very few recruiting classes are going to stick around anymore when the coach that recruited them isn’t going to be there. We would need to hire a coach that theoretically could bring some good players with him from wherever he was.

Either way, I’m certainly hoping and pulling for it all to work out and for it to be a moot point.
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Also, if any next coach takes the same approach of "burn it all down", it doesn't matter much what is in the cupboard.
 


Not a fan of Cowherd’s myself, but he brings up some interesting points in this clip (and believe it or not I’m not even talking about the ones where he is bashing Belichick for being a has-been). He brings up something I have not really thought of, which is that the era of old-school defensive coaches being successful has passed and its offensive-oriented coaches that are running the NFL and college football. The point that Cowherd makes is that it’s not even necessarily about age, but rather about foundational philosophy and personality. There are plenty of old guys who are offensive minded who are still thriving- Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Harbaugh, Bruce Arians in their older age.
But pretty much all of the old-school older defensive minded coaches- Belichick, Pete Carol, Ron Rivera, Lovie Smith- all met career endings that were disastrous.
 
CFordUNC said:
Agree with the first sentiment, but very few recruiting classes are going to stick around anymore when the coach that recruited them isn’t going to be there. We would need to hire a coach that theoretically could bring some good players with him from wherever he was.

Either way, I’m certainly hoping and pulling for it all to work out and for it to be a moot point.
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There is always going to be a task of keeping talented players. The more you start with the better chance you have to keep more. It's also different when the coach is fired/leaves instead of getting fired, players tend to stick around more in those cases. It's when coaches move to another HC job where you see a ton of players leaving (they go with the coach), at least lately.
 
stankeylegjones said:
Which players did BB and staff force out/burn it down? I know a few of the top-talent left for better programs and better chances, but which others?
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I think he's referring to all the staff who could've helped ID team needs more quickly plus share their leads on portal guys (Mack was likely looking at the portal for the next Huzzie and Lampkin at a bunch of positions).
 
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