UNC ONLY BASKETBALL 2024-25 SEASON

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The Virginia game next weekend will be dangerous. Their record is very average (13-12, 6-8 ACC) but they’ve been playing a lot better over the last few weeks. Would have won 5 of the last 6 if not for a buzzer beater at home against Virginia Tech. (They’ve also lost buzzer beaters against SMU and Memphis this season) Over that span, they’ve been playing like the 13th best team in the country according to Bart Torvik with their best offensive stretch since their 2019 title team. Obviously they are still not a very good team but they’re playing well enough lately that they could beat us, and another Q3 home loss would be the final nail in the coffin.
 
superrific said:
We are 48 on kenpom.com. That's not a tourney team. It wasn't any particular loss that caused so much damage. The team just isn't very good.
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Some teams that aren’t that good get into the tourney every year.

It’s better to be in than not.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
They also want to make a smaller arena with more premium seating for donors. Aka a very quiet, very sterile, very boring home atmosphere.
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I dont think that will be the result at all. The premium seating will be largely removed from the court and the the students will largely be concentrated around the court. Also, the premium seating in a new arena will be up for grabs and largely populated by middle age or slightly younger alums rather than the current folks in the lower level of the Smith Center who have a median age of 75.
 
Calheel said:
Well, it easily could have been that ND loss, or that State loss. Or to a lesser extent, that GT loss. When you play with fire with bad teams, you are going to lose some of them. Can't really be upset about Stanford, when we got a gift at ND. Win some, lose some.
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True, playing with fire you sometimes get burned. But Stanford was a home game. They lost it. All of those other games they won.
 
superrific said:
We are 48 on kenpom.com. That's not a tourney team. It wasn't any particular loss that caused so much damage. The team just isn't very good.
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It’s true we are not a particularly a very good team, but being 48 in Kenpom is not a deal breaker in and of itself. Nevada made the field last year as an at-large rated #62 Kenpom.

In the 2024 NCAA Tournament, some other teams that were considered to be among the worst at-large teams included: Utah State Aggies, Texas A&M Aggies, Northwestern Wildcats, South Carolina Gamecocks, and Virginia Cavaliers.
 
Centerpiece said:
It’s true we are not a particularly a very good team, but being 48 in Kenpom is not a deal breaker in and of itself. Nevada made the field last year as an at-large rated #62 Kenpom.

In the 2024 NCAA Tournament, some other teams that were considered to be among the worst at-large teams included: Utah State Aggies, Texas A&M Aggies, Northwestern Wildcats, South Carolina Gamecocks, and Virginia Cavaliers.
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The deal breaker will be their quad 1 record.
 
Centerpiece said:
It’s true we are not a particularly a very good team, but being 48 in Kenpom is not a deal breaker in and of itself.
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It's not, but it's indicative of the problem. Stanford is #90. Teams that are #48 do sometimes lose to #90 teams. Teams that are #10 rarely do. BTW, we are closer to Stanford in terms of net rating than we are to top 20.
 
superrific said:
It's not, but it's indicative of the problem. Stanford is #90. Teams that are #48 do sometimes lose to #90 teams. Teams that are #10 rarely do. BTW, we are closer to Stanford in terms of net rating than we are to top 20.
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All true. And we are closer to playing as well (or as poorly) as Stanford than we are a top 20. At this point, it is what it is. If the selections were today, I certainly wouldn’t select our team… regardless of kenpom rating.
 
Despite my initial assessment from the Kansas game, it's clear now that this isn't a good team. Had we gotten that big from Zona that went to Indiana, perhaps. But we didn't.

I like Hubert, but it has become clear to me that he is not the answer. I tend to trust in Roy, but even Roy can get things wrong, as he sometimes did.

Hubert bought himself a lot of time with that incredible title game run his first year. The fact he had a 1 seed last year also didn't hurt.

But he's not the answer. The whiff on a true big through the portal this year sealed it. We'll probably give him another year, but I doubt it amounts to anything. His success was from Roy's players.

That being said, I think we ought to make a serious play for Jay Wright. Time to get out of the family. Get his ass out of the booth. I imagine it was NIL that made him quit. But throw $8-10 million in there and give him a NIL person. I think he would be a cultural fit.

One of the things that tore my rear up was seeing that we gave Billichick $30 million for the football program. I get it. It's a new era. And we're obviously making a play for realignment. But we had that kind of money all along? What the hell!

We're an historic basketball program. How anyone with actual money can just let that go to rot is beyond me! I refuse to believe it.

Get Jay Wright in here and win some titles again.
 
MendotoManteo said:
Despite my initial assessment from the Kansas game, it's clear now that this isn't a good team. Had we gotten that big from Zona that went to Indiana, perhaps. But we didn't.

I like Hubert, but it has become clear to me that he is not the answer. I tend to trust in Roy, but even Roy can get things wrong, as he sometimes did.

Hubert bought himself a lot of time with that incredible title game run his first year. The fact he had a 1 seed last year also didn't hurt.

But he's not the answer. The whiff on a true big through the portal this year sealed it. We'll probably give him another year, but I doubt it amounts to anything. His success was from Roy's players.

That being said, I think we ought to make a serious play for Jay Wright. Time to get out of the family. Get his ass out of the booth. I imagine it was NIL that made him quit. But throw $8-10 million in there and give him a NIL person. I think he would be a cultural fit.

One of the things that tore my rear up was seeing that we gave Billichick $30 million for the football program. I get it. It's a new era. And we're obviously making a play for realignment. But we had that kind of money all along? What the hell!

We're an historic basketball program. How anyone with actual money can just let that go to rot is beyond me! I refuse to believe it.

Get Jay Wright in here and win some titles again.
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Highly unlikely that Jay Wright comes back to CBB.
 
MendotoManteo said:
Despite my initial assessment from the Kansas game, it's clear now that this isn't a good team. Had we gotten that big from Zona that went to Indiana, perhaps. But we didn't.

I like Hubert, but it has become clear to me that he is not the answer. I tend to trust in Roy, but even Roy can get things wrong, as he sometimes did.

Hubert bought himself a lot of time with that incredible title game run his first year. The fact he had a 1 seed last year also didn't hurt.

But he's not the answer. The whiff on a true big through the portal this year sealed it. We'll probably give him another year, but I doubt it amounts to anything. His success was from Roy's players.

That being said, I think we ought to make a serious play for Jay Wright. Time to get out of the family. Get his ass out of the booth. I imagine it was NIL that made him quit. But throw $8-10 million in there and give him a NIL person. I think he would be a cultural fit.

One of the things that tore my rear up was seeing that we gave Billichick $30 million for the football program. I get it. It's a new era. And we're obviously making a play for realignment. But we had that kind of money all along? What the hell!

We're an historic basketball program. How anyone with actual money can just let that go to rot is beyond me! I refuse to believe it.

Get Jay Wright in here and win some titles again.
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I think this could be a good team, not elite, but definitely top-25 team. HD/staff simply refuse, or can't, adjust their approach to match, let alone uplift, the talents' skill-set. There are some simple fixes and adjustments they could try, but don't.
 
Bigs23 said:
Highly unlikely that Jay Wright comes back to CBB.
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You think Jay Wright wouldn't come back to coach UNC if given enough money and not having to worry about NIL?

Granted, my own ignorance, I thought he was a bit younger. Maybe late 50s. I see he's 63. But I think he could give it another go, for at least 5 years, with the right opportunity and money.
 
Carolina's defense MUST improve if they have post-season aspirations. Pretty bad against Cuse. Here are some up to date player
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MendotoManteo said:
You think Jay Wright wouldn't come back to coach UNC if given enough money and not having to worry about NIL?

Granted, my own ignorance, I thought he was a bit younger. Maybe late 50s. I see he's 63. But I think he could give it another go, for at least 5 years, with the right opportunity and money.
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I don’t think he would but you never know.
 
MendotoManteo said:
You think Jay Wright wouldn't come back to coach UNC if given enough money and not having to worry about NIL?

Granted, my own ignorance, I thought he was a bit younger. Maybe late 50s. I see he's 63. But I think he could give it another go, for at least 5 years, with the right opportunity and money.
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I don’t think he has any interest in coaching in the current environment, which is why he retired. I would also prefer to hire a coach that would be viewed as more of a long term solution if successful.
 
High level coaches that would be candidates for the UNC job if/when it opens up again understand that the expectations are high and that there isn’t as much leeway for down seasons like coaches might get at some of the middle/lower tier programs. I seriously doubt that’s going to be a deal breaker that makes them turn down the job if they were actually interested in it in the first place.
 
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