Yep. How many of these guys will be back next season? Trimble maybe. Tyson? Washington? Lubin? I wouldn't be surprised if Cadeau, Powell, and Jackson either enter the portal or go pro. Whoever the coach is next year will likely be looking at a massive rebuilding project.
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Mulberry Heel
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I was trying to say earlier. Since we're still fairly early in the season I'll just wait and see what happens by the end of the year. Hopefully Davis can turn it around.
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I’ll take the over.
StoneColdHeel
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I am getting so I prefer to record the games and only watch them if the Heels win instead of watching it live, unless they are playing Duke or in the NCAA tournament.
Heelsandeers
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1-5 vs NCAAT teams giving up 91 ppg. Florida turned it over 17 times and scored 90
As bad as we thought the defense might be to start the season, it's been worse
As bad as we thought the defense might be to start the season, it's been worse
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Same here, but I add d00k games to that modus operendi as well... first and foremost actually...
Needless to say, I didn't watch the game last night - and shan't watch the replay today. Why would I?
I attended a H.S. basketball game instead last evening. Much more fun and fulfilling.
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We've too many missing pieces this year. The team is not constructed to play at a successful level against top opponents. I think the empirical evidence is clear on that by now. Look for another L vs. UCLA in NYC this weekend.
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If they lose this weekend, they are not going to be able, short of running the table, to make it in the tourney. Their season basically rides on this game. Hopefully HD/staff will get them to come out playing in the first half like he does in the second half.
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Sure, a lot of games left but any loss in conference outside of Clemson, Pitt, and dook will be devastating since the conference is so poor. 6 teams other than us have at least 5 losses already. We need to go at least 15-5 with no devastating losses to get on the bubble.
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Yep, if they lose this weekend it will probably take 16-4 in the ACC to get in, unless we sweep dook and even then it's probably 15-5. Big hill to climb.
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Make it 6. The same game script over and over and over is not a coincidence. What does it say about a team that
1. can't build or maintain a lead
2. only plays well down a bunch when the other team (naturally) has its foot off the gas
3. can't execute in end of game situations
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They won’t have to run the table.
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If they lose this weekend then they will need to be pretty close to running the table. The ACC is incredibly weak this year, outside of Duke.
Heelsandeers
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Welp. Still come out every game looking like they're playing with a ton of pressure
It’s only when there’s nothing left to lose that they look sharp and just play bball
Only to tighten up again when the game gets close and slows down. If that isn’t on coaching idk what is
Not to mention even historically great UNC teams have lost head-scratching games in conference play. A historically bad team like the one we currently have is going to lose even more of those games.
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I was coaching my son's rec league team during the first half of the Carolina game. I saw the score and figured there wasn't any sense in watching the same thing we have seen all year when they play a good team...slow start, comeback, still lose.
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I'm squarely in the "writing's on the wall" camp. 3 out his 4 seasons will be spent on the NCAA tourney bubble. His 1st year was rough until we got fluky hot at the very end. That run led to massive expectations in year 2, which we failed to meet. Miserably. Year 3 was a good season that still left a lot to be desired - that ACCT loss to State was... gross. And we were clearly a tier or 2 below the elite teams last season and didn't really have a realistic chance at a title. And this year, yikes.
Excuses are for losers. Its ultimately the coach's responsibility to build the roster and have its production meet/exceed its potential. Good coaches do that consistently. Hubert did it for a few weeks in the spring of 2022. Sure, it could be argued we were > the sum of our parts last season, but we were pretty damn talented. The rest of his tenure has been average to below-average.
Program vibes aren't good. Perception isn't good. Recruiting momentum is gone. Board insiders at IC hinting that players (and their families) are losing trust in Hubert. Recruits seem to have already reached that point. We saw how big $ donors were quick to break the bank for Belichick in a way they never did for Mack. Hubert's seat is heating up. That brings uncertainty for the future, which recruits tend to not like. It's a self-sustaining spiral we've all seen before.
Had we completed the collapse to that depleted Baylor team or had Caleb missed just one of the ridiculous shots he hit vs. UCLA, this all looks much clearer.
Excuses are for losers. Its ultimately the coach's responsibility to build the roster and have its production meet/exceed its potential. Good coaches do that consistently. Hubert did it for a few weeks in the spring of 2022. Sure, it could be argued we were > the sum of our parts last season, but we were pretty damn talented. The rest of his tenure has been average to below-average.
Program vibes aren't good. Perception isn't good. Recruiting momentum is gone. Board insiders at IC hinting that players (and their families) are losing trust in Hubert. Recruits seem to have already reached that point. We saw how big $ donors were quick to break the bank for Belichick in a way they never did for Mack. Hubert's seat is heating up. That brings uncertainty for the future, which recruits tend to not like. It's a self-sustaining spiral we've all seen before.
Had we completed the collapse to that depleted Baylor team or had Caleb missed just one of the ridiculous shots he hit vs. UCLA, this all looks much clearer.
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Yeah, beating dook at K's last home game and the run in the tourney and beating dook again in the Final 4 was an awesome ride. But it really was all about Manek getting hot and Love hitting some ridiculous shots at the right time. I think some forget how that season was until the tourney run and the Heels were close to not even being in it.
He is losing the recruiting war and now we do not have a rebounder or utility big man that can limit the bleeding inside. I see talented bigs on mid majors that could help us but some how we cannot evaluate talent well enough to procure a usable 7 footer. The 4 and 5 positions are empty.
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Yep. Despite the results, that team was on the bubble until the last game of the regular season. They were on the bubble again the next season. And they're on the bubble again now with a ton of work to do to get off it.
If the admin wants to maintain program standards, these results cannot be acceptable. People citing the Final 4 in year 1 and the 1-seed last year are missing the forest for the trees. UNC basketball has great regular seasons and consistent tournament success. That's the standard. Period. Not 3 of 4 seasons on the bubble with one hot streak skewing everything.