UNC ONLY BASKETBALL 2024-25 SEASON

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HintonJamesHeel said:
The reporting is UNC’s offer was bigger. He committed to Uk. Went in a trip to UNC and liked it. Got the UNC offer and it was more. UK was given option to match. They did not.
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Who reported this? I'll admit I don't follow NIL or how recruiting battles play out very closely

If it really was a matter of UK not willing to match, that is somewhat less of a win

UK does have Johnson/Moreno coming in but still
 
Icky Mettle said:
Ian Jackson. He was ranked no. 2 when he committed in January 2023.

Drake eventually made his way into the top 10 but wasn’t there when he committed (and finished his high school career just outside of it).
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True. Think he was 5 when he committed (on 247), but still Top 10.

Taking a look at the last ten years:
Drake and Cadeau were just outside top 10.
I guess technically we got GG to commit before he switched.
List is Ian Jackson, Caleb Love, Cole Anthony and Nasser Little.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
The reporting is UNC’s offer was bigger. He committed to Uk. Went in a trip to UNC and liked it. Got the UNC offer and it was more. UK was given option to match. They did not.
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When did he commit to UK?

I seem to recall he really liked UNC and people were surprised he didn't commit after his visit, then UK stepped in with a bigger bag. I'm not an expert and don't claim any knowledge other than reading, but up until the commitment I read several that reported that UK offered more money and if the commitment were based on that he would be UK bound.
 
CRHeel94 said:
True. Think he was 5 when he committed (on 247), but still Top 10.

Taking a look at the last ten years:
Drake and Cadeau were just outside top 10.
I guess technically we got GG to commit before he switched.
List is Ian Jackson, Caleb Love, Cole Anthony and Nasser Little.
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Yeah those were the last four guys to come to Chapel Hill who finished their high school careers ranked in the top 10 of their respective classes.

Before Little, there was a three-year drought where we didn’t land any top 10 recruits. In fact, we didn’t land anybody who was ranked in the top 25 during that stretch (in terms of where players were ranked at the end of their high school careers). And before landing Justin Jackson in the 2014 class, we had another three-year drought where we didn’t land a top 10 recruit. James Michael McAdoo (2011) was the last before Justin Jackson. Between 2004 and 2011, we brought in at least one top-10 recruit in each class, with the exception of 2007 when we didn’t bring in any new recruits (we were already loaded).
 
finesse said:
Stephenson who reclassified and went to Alabama , also from Pittsboro and with UNC connections, was once thought to be the same.
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Almost forgot, it's been so quiet for him lately. Had a decent freshman season

Really struggling to shoot it and I'm assuming the defense hasn't been there much

In theory a player you would've thought could help the current UNC team
 
I do hope Hubert can succeed because I want UNC to win. This season has not been good and they have struggled against teams they shouldn't struggle against. Hubert also failed to get a big that can be an offensive threat, and has not adjusted the offense to give the players he has a better chance at good shots and winning. Hopefully the addition of Caleb Wilson next season will be the start of turning things around. But if they miss the tournament again this year and don't improve significantly next season, then I think Hubert will probably be gone.
 
I love Hubert and also want him to succeed. WTS from what I have seen we cannot play big boy ball. We are small and not shooting the ball well, and it shows up nearly every game. RJ is the key. Without him having a good game our opponents pack the lane and rebound our misses. It seems to me we play much better with the ball in his hands and also he shoots better when playing the 1. It worked with him and Caleb Love and should work now. I thought Washington would step up on D but he can or will not. His offense is good enough but again our opponents can hang out in the lane and thwart his game. WE ARE TOO SMALL.
 
Y’all keep wringing your hands, but it ain’t the X’s and O’s It’s the Jimmys and Joes.

I’ve read all of your poasts, and I get it. I really do. It's frustrating - and it has been frustrating since Roy's last 2 years. Although we can all admit last year (reg season champs) - and the FF run/K dashing a couple of years ago - was fun as hell!
But it is frustrating for a fan base like UNC to have to weather storms of "the bubble" or not "getting a big from the Portal"; Or not making the NCAAT at all... it sux no doubt.

However, I’ve also listened to all of the podcasts from former players like Joel Berry, Theo, Justin, Raymond, Etc.
I've decided I’ll side with them. I’ll side with Sean, Marcus, Lebo, Coach Davis…

We missed on a portal big. Duh.

Offense? Offense scores plenty - 82.5 per game - good for #20 in the Nation. So, please don't argue about our shooting %'s or how we "stand around and go one v. one all the time". Listen to Theo - he said: "Offense? Under Roy? Secondary Break and Freelance, that was it. Hubert runs way more offense than Roy ever did!" I'll believe Theo, not you guys. Sorry.

It's not the offense, it's the defense and rebounding. And both of those things are "effort" related, along with having some height to guard folks, change the trajectory of shots and to get rebounds.

We're "short" at every position - and did I say we missed on a big?

Finally, we don't have any leaders on the floor or in the locker room. Nary a one. The coaches can try to motivate and encourage all they want, but you need those guys who are actually wearing the jersey to lead - either by example or vocally in the huddle. That person is supposed to be RJ - but that's not in his nature. RJ is the one who needs to take a charge (take a charge, along with "take charge"); he needs to box out and throw an elbow; get in a teammate's face (the way Jordan would with the Bulls). RJ needs to be the one, who after dropping the perfect dime to a teammate - who then fumbles the ball away or misses the dunk - RJ needs to be the one to get in their grill and say: "Man, I'm not throwing you the ball anymore if you're going to do that crap!" These are the types of things a team leader would do. It's tough love, but it needs to happen and it needs to come from someone wearing a jersey.
 
Centerpiece said:
Y’all keep wringing your hands, but it ain’t the X’s and O’s It’s the Jimmys and Joes.

I’ve read all of your poasts, and I get it. I really do. It's frustrating - and it has been frustrating since Roy's last 2 years. Although we can all admit last year (reg season champs) - and the FF run/K dashing a couple of years ago - was fun as hell!
But it is frustrating for a fan base like UNC to have to weather storms of "the bubble" or not "getting a big from the Portal"; Or not making the NCAAT at all... it sux no doubt.

However, I’ve also listened to all of the podcasts from former players like Joel Berry, Theo, Justin, Raymond, Etc.
I've decided I’ll side with them. I’ll side with Sean, Marcus, Lebo, Coach Davis…

We missed on a portal big. Duh.

Offense? Offense scores plenty - 82.5 per game - good for #20 in the Nation. So, please don't argue about our shooting %'s or how we "stand around and go one v. one all the time". Listen to Theo - he said: "Offense? Under Roy? Secondary Break and Freelance, that was it. Hubert runs way more offense than Roy ever did!" I'll believe Theo, not you guys. Sorry.

It's not the offense, it's the defense and rebounding. And both of those things are "effort" related, along with having some height to guard folks, change the trajectory of shots and to get rebounds.

We're "short" at every position - and did I say we missed on a big?

Finally, we don't have any leaders on the floor or in the locker room. Nary a one. The coaches can try to motivate and encourage all they want, but you need those guys who are actually wearing the jersey to lead - either by example or vocally in the huddle. That person is supposed to be RJ - but that's not in his nature. RJ is the one who needs to take a charge (take a charge, along with "take charge"); he needs to box out and throw an elbow; get in a teammate's face (the way Jordan would with the Bulls). RJ needs to be the one, who after dropping the perfect dime to a teammate - who then fumbles the ball away or misses the dunk - RJ needs to be the one to get in their grill and say: "Man, I'm not throwing you the ball anymore if you're going to do that crap!" These are the types of things a team leader would do. It's tough love, but it needs to happen and it needs to come from someone wearing a jersey.
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Of course the former players are going to stick up for Hubert. Not saying they don’t have some valid points, but they are also obviously biased in this situation. They’re never going to call out his coaching acumen, even if it’s valid.

For sake of argument let’s say that it’s not on Hubert and his staff to get the team to play with right amount of effort and that the responsibility for that is solely on the players. At the end of the day that still ultimately falls on the coaches, because they are the ones in charge of picking the players that are on the team in the first place. If the players aren’t giving effort or showing enough leadership, then Hubert should have recruited different players.

Professional sports have their own personnel departments, so there are going to be times when the teams have limitations and it’s through no fault of the HC. College coaches don’t have that excuse. They are the CEO of the entire program, and the buck always stops with them when it comes to the results, for better or worse. There is simply no other way to slice it.
 
Peppers49 said:
Of course the former players are going to stick up for Hubert. Not saying they don’t have some valid points, but they are also obviously biased in this situation. They’re never going to call out his coaching acumen, even if it’s valid.

For sake of argument let’s say that it’s not on Hubert and his staff to get the team to play with right amount of effort and that the responsibility for that is solely on the players. At the end of the day that still ultimately falls on the coaches, because they are the ones in charge of picking the players that are on the team in the first place. If the players aren’t giving effort or showing enough leadership, then Hubert should have recruited different players.

Professional sports have their own personnel departments, so there are going to be times when the teams have limitations and it’s through no fault of the HC. College coaches don’t have that excuse. They are the CEO of the entire program, and the buck always stops with them when it comes to the results, for better or worse. There is simply no other way to slice it.
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I’m biased in this situation too.
I fully understand your take. And a lot of the UNC fanbase agrees with you 100%. As do I - to a certain extent. But again I say, put me in the same group as the former players in this instance. Agree to disagree.
 
Centerpiece said:
It's not the offense, it's the defense and rebounding. And both of those things are "effort" related, along with having some height to guard folks, change the trajectory of shots and to get rebounds.
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If you are not using efficiency stats, you are a basketball troglodyte. Total offense is a meaningless stat because it is so influenced by pace.

Per KenPom, our offensive efficiency is 46 and our defensive efficiency is 48. Neither is close to UNC level. So we very much have a problem with our offense and our defense right now.
 
Calheel said:
If you are not using efficiency stats, you are a basketball troglodyte. Total offense is a meaningless stat because it is so influenced by pace.

Per KenPom, our offensive efficiency is 46 and our defensive efficiency is 48. Neither is close to UNC level. So we very much have a problem with our offense and our defense right now.
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The team is too small on defense to switch everything. It just allows more situations where a smaller defender is on a bigger player for the other team. The team is also too small and doesn't have the shooters it needs if RJ isn't hitting for the offense Hubert runs, which really isn't a structured offense at all. He isn't coaching a defense or offense that fits the team he has.
 
Calheel said:
If you are not using efficiency stats, you are a basketball troglodyte. Total offense is a meaningless stat because it is so influenced by pace.

Per KenPom, our offensive efficiency is 46 and our defensive efficiency is 48. Neither is close to UNC level. So we very much have a problem with our offense and our defense right now.
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“Basketball troglodyte” made me laugh so hard. Great work. Totally agree with you
 
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