United Healthcare CEO shot and killed

Callatoroy said:
I guess that is debatable. There really isn't a way that doesn't have serious drawbacks for some people and there isn't a one size fits all approach.
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True.

I've listened to a couple of really good interviews with people that study insurance. It is complicated.

But, I do believe if we take the profit motive out of it, it could be better.

And I'm not against people being properly compensated for their work. And I have no blind ideas that we could do this for free.

But, I do believe we could be more efficient, and still pay for the services and keep doctors, with a single payer system that puts people first and not profits.
 
Callatoroy said:
Because its easy and popular to demonize insurance companies.
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Why is it easy?

Would you like to know how many times my family was denied coverage, because the insurance companies doctors said it wasn't medically necessary? The insurance company doctors that never met my family or diagnosed my child? Then after multiple appeals they finally paid. It probably would have cost them much less to have listened to the doctors to begin with, instead of paying for multiple ER visits.

It's easy because there is a problem there.
 
superrific said:
Well, the actors might be returning after their post-performance festivities, but I see your point.

It's my understanding that suppressors do not cancel the sound. They reduce it. I watched a video on youtube about this, where a guy fired weapons with and without suppressors. Maybe it was a bad video, but the point (which seemed supported) was that suppressors reduce sound but they aren't like in the movies where nobody can hear anything. Maybe you can't hear it from 100 feet away but 10 feet, sure.

I never spent much time on the streets of New York at 6:45 AM, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was enough extraneous noise to at least partly mask the shots. That could have happened.

But it's still fucking brazen to shoot a guy on the city street when cars and pedestrians can have full view.
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I've shot a gun with a suppressor, it's relatively quiet comparatively. Yes, it isn't silent, but I'd say it knocks the sound down by 90%+.
 
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You guys seeing reports that the gun may have actually been a gun vets/farmers use to kill livestock? And it’s incredibly quiet.
 
Milk and Cookies said:
You guys seeing reports that the gun may have actually been a gun vets/farmers use to kill livestock? And it’s incredibly quiet.
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It has a built in suppressor. I’m sure we have some borderline gun nerds that can clarify, but when I googled the model there were lots of collector forums in the results. I could see its use as a farm/ranch gun, but otherwise, it appears to be a novelty item and/or a kill-you-quietly tool, just like this situation. Runs about $1500.
 
What do we think is in the backpack? Just his other clothes and jacket that we saw in the hostel photo? Assume he kept the gun on him.
Traveling by bus avoids any bag searches or metal detectors.
 
He could’ve been traveling by bus just to get to Newark or another airport. Newark probably would’ve taken no longer than JFK or LGA from where he was, and at least a little less obvious.
 
duluoz said:
He could’ve been traveling by bus just to get to Newark or another airport. Newark probably would’ve taken no longer than JFK or LGA from where he was, and at least a little less obvious.
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Sure he could, but it’s not the simplest explanation
 
Milk and Cookies said:
Sure he could, but it’s not the simplest explanation
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IMO it’s at least as likely as riding a bus into the middle of the country and waiting to get caught. People ride buses and trains to the airports around NYC, it’s the most common way to get to the airports. Including Newark.

My money says he’s a traveler and he’s long gone.
 
LosPollosHermanos said:
NYPD doesn't usually spend this many resources trying to catch the killer of the don of a criminal enterprise.
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The NYPD also doesn't usually spend this many resources trying to catch a raccoon that grabs trash from someone's balcony. That's as relevant to this discussion as your example is.
 
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