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So Coop is gonna have to do something to keep up! Go all Helicopter or something
 
HeelInTheOzarks said:
I don’t like that Shapiro is big into school vouchers. I didn’t know this until today.
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He would be the VP candidate. You're not going to find someone who agrees with you about every single policy. It's unlikely that his support or non-support for school vouchers would ever make any difference in the world. Maybe if he's president in four or eight years it might, but I'd be thrilled to have the problem that President Josh Shapiro (D) likes school vouchers.

Same goes with Kelly and organized labor, and I also doubt that any union votes are going to be affected if Kamala were to choose him as VP.

Finally, I think it's long been disproven that VP candidates can deliver for their home geographic areas. MAYBE an extremely popular governor could help a ticket in-state (the Big Gretch argument), but that's an if because people vote the top of the ticket. And there's no evidence that they help out of state. If Josh Shapiro is making the difference for Dems in PA, we're probably losing.
 
superrific said:
He would be the VP candidate. You're not going to find someone who agrees with you about every single policy. It's unlikely that his support or non-support for school vouchers would ever make any difference in the world. Maybe if he's president in four or eight years it might, but I'd be thrilled to have the problem that President Josh Shapiro (D) likes school vouchers.

Same goes with Kelly and organized labor, and I also doubt that any union votes are going to be affected if Kamala were to choose him as VP.

Finally, I think it's long been disproven that VP candidates can deliver for their home geographic areas. MAYBE an extremely popular governor could help a ticket in-state (the Big Gretch argument), but that's an if because people vote the top of the ticket. And there's no evidence that they help out of state. If Josh Shapiro is making the difference for Dems in PA, we're probably losing.
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Yeah I’m not an ideological purist, it was just kinda disappointing. I still think he’d be a great candidate.
 
Cooper would be very solid. I actually think he’d open up NC for Harris considering the dynamic with Robinson as well. He won’t be the choice but would love it if he was.
 
Unless I am mistaken, Kelly wouldn't have to resign his Senate seat unless he was actually elected VP. In other words, replacing him is sort of a problem I don't mind having.

Yes, it would suck to lose the incumbency advantage in Arizona in 2026, but if Kelly helps the ticket even incrementally (and I'm going to trust Kamala and her team on this, who know far more than I do), it's worth it.
 
superrific said:
Unless I am mistaken, Kelly wouldn't have to resign his Senate seat unless he was actually elected VP. In other words, replacing him is sort of a problem I don't mind having.

Yes, it would suck to lose the incumbency advantage in Arizona in 2026, but if Kelly helps the ticket even incrementally (and I'm going to trust Kamala and her team on this, who know far more than I do), it's worth it.
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Pardon my ignorance, but in the event that Kelly became VP, wouldn't the Democrat governor appoint his replacement? Then they would have two years to make their case to Arizona for re-election?
 
I met Roy Cooper many years ago and really like him, but I'm not sure he would help all that much in a national campaign. I think Kelly, Shapiro, or Beshear would be better options.
 
TarHeelGrad said:
Pardon my ignorance, but in the event that Kelly became VP, wouldn't the Democrat governor appoint his replacement? Then they would have two years to make their case to Arizona for re-election?
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Yes - in Arizona the governor appoints a replacement (but only until the next congressional election, which would be 2026). Kelly originally won in 2020 special election (McCain died in 2018 and the R governor appointed a replacement to serve until 2020). Then the seat was up for its regular turn in the election cycle in 2022, and Kelly won again.

Now there is a D governor, so she would theoretically appoint a democrat to serve until the 2026 midterm where the same seat would be up again in a special.
 
Kelly hits a lot of traditional American politician marks, sans hair. I just hope the west coast concentration doesn't turn-off the mid-west and potentially gettable GA and NC. Heading to his wiki page, I had hopes of learning he grew-up in Ohio or MO or some such, but alas, a Jersey boy.
 
HeelingAg said:
Kelly hits a lot of traditional American politician marks, sans hair. I just hope the west coast concentration doesn't turn-off the mid-west and potentially gettable GA and NC. Heading to his wiki page, I had hopes of learning he grew-up in Ohio or MO or some such, but alas, a Jersey boy.
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Vance has a beard and Kelly is bald...what will America do???

And as a bald man with a beard, I feel very seen!
 
HeelInTheOzarks said:
Yes - in Arizona the governor appoints a replacement (but only until the next congressional election, which would be 2026). Kelly originally won in 2020 special election (McCain died in 2018 and the R governor appointed a replacement to serve until 2020). Then the seat was up for its regular turn in the election cycle in 2022, and Kelly won again.

Now there is a D governor, so she would theoretically appoint a democrat to serve until the 2026 midterm where the same seat would be up again in a special.
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By state law, she has to appoint someone from the same party.
 
nashcounty said:
I met Roy Cooper many years ago and really like him, but I'm not sure he would help all that much in a national campaign. I think Kelly, Shapiro, or Beshear would be better options.
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Agreed. Roy would very likely not swing NC and wouldn't add much value otherwise.

Props for the Popcorn Sutton look. I bought white likker from him in the early 2000s. Very ornery dude.
 
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