Where do we go from here?

[Turd Ferguson]

Thank you so much for writing this out. I have enjoyed reading it, and I hope that we can gain from folks' experiences similar to yourself. I do admit that I am more negative than you regarding going forward. I feel like there needs to be significant change in the party's direction along with messaging, and overall persona - losing like this (all three) to a party as fucking insane, hateful, selfish as the current maga party is an indication, imo.

I don't think it's the Democratic party. I think, unfortunately, this is just how the majority of Americans are right now.

 

[stankeylegjones]

I don't think it's the Democratic party. I think, unfortunately, this is just how the majority of Americans are right now.

I’m not following you. Can you elaborate?

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I’m not following you. Can you elaborate?

I don't think it is anything the Dems are or aren't doing. It's just how the country is right now. There is no reason anyone should support Trump. It shouldn't even matter with a person like that. Unfortunately, have of the country does for some reason. Mostly it comes.from racism, bigotry, and greed. But a lot of people are just too ignorant to get out of their own way, too.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Why do the Democrats need a plan for this? It’s not like the Pubs had a plan. Tariffs were their plan? If people took that as a valid plan then the Dems should just make up plans too.

The Trumper plan for these Rust Belt states is to blatantly lie to people and tell them that they'll raise tariffs and that will force companies to bring all their old manufacturing jobs back to their dying towns and cities, and they'll roll back all of these social advances by LGBTQ people and uppity women and minorities and sexual freedoms and people in the Midwest can all party just like it's 1972 again. And it's all bullshit of course, but since that's exactly what they want to hear so they buy it.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

The Trumper plan for these Rust Belt states is to blatantly lie to people and tell them that they'll raise tariffs and that will force companies to bring all their old manufacturing jobs back to their dying towns and cities, and they'll roll back all of these social advances by LGBTQ people and uppity women and minorities and sexual freedoms and people in the Midwest can all party just like it's 1972 again. And it's all bullshit of course, but since that's exactly what they want to hear they buy it.

And some people here don't want to believe that the majority of Americans are just hateful and deplorable people who can't be reached no matter what.

 

[mpaer]

The Trumper plan for these Rust Belt states is to blatantly lie to people and tell them that they'll raise tariffs and that will force companies to bring all their old manufacturing jobs back to their dying towns and cities, and they'll roll back all of these social advances by LGBTQ people and uppity women and minorities and sexual freedoms and people in the Midwest can all party just like it's 1972 again. And it's all bullshit of course, but since that's exactly what they want to hear they buy it.

And cut all their benefits

 

[stankeylegjones]

I don't think it is anything the Dems are or aren't doing. It's just how the country is right now. There is no reason anyone should support Trump. It shouldn't even matter with a person like that. Unfortunately, have of the country does for some reason. Mostly it comes.from racism, bigotry, and greed. But a lot of people are just too ignorant to get out of their own way, too.

Thank you for elaborating.
I still think many voters who voted for the magats did so out of economic struggles, which led them to not think clearly. But still, as you rightly put it, a whole lot of racists and bigots also voted.