2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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lawtig02 said:
My view, for the very little it’s worth —

Now is about the time in the campaign where we can stop focusing on margins. Start looking at the top line numbers for Trump and Kamala with credible pollsters. Trump at 47% or less is great. Kamala at 51% or more is great. Trump at 48% and Kamala at 50% is scary, but still probably ok for Kamala. The last Economist has Kamala at 49 and Trump at 45. That’s ok. The last CBS has Kamala at 52 and Trump at 48. That’s excellent. We’re in good shape. No need to freak out unless we start seeing Trump tied or ahead of Kamala in high quality polls where he has 49 or 50. Just keep plugging along unless we start seeing those types of numbers.
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“Just keep plugging along” so we DON’T see those #s
 
Zoo_View said:
The ones I know are FAR from Libertarians……Deadhead MAGA Christo-Nationalist AUTHORITARIANS.
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I think the thing is that Deadheads come from literally every single walk of life, so it’s not all too surprising to find that a large amount of them have been captured by the same reactionary forces that have captured thousands of other Americans. (Especially since the fan base is HEAVILY white).
 
superrific said:
[By the way, I've described the poker scene in Casino Royale, which was humorous and improbable but also required Bond to play like an idiot]
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I'm certainly a novice poker player at best but I didn't think Bond played badly on that (admittedly and as you correctly pointed out) highly improbable hand..
 
Paine said:
There are actually quite a few, sadly. A lot of hippies became right-wing libertarian types.

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Yeah. I know. It’s amazing how many long haired, pot smoking, motor cycle riding, guitar playing hippies from the early 70’s who went Pub, or Libertarian as you say. I’m thinking more Libertarian than Maga though. But Libertarians vote trump too.

I recall those days, listening to CSNY, Allman Bros. The Dead, etc. smoking my dope with New Riders of the Purple Sage, learning how to strum a 6-string, playing bluegrass while smoking grass with the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band; Walking barefoot around a college campus avoiding 8am classes.

I recall hanging out with like-minded folk back then… fast forward to 2008 and I then realize how some of those fuckers are/were actually racists. It just didn’t show outwardly until a black man was in the White House. Fast forward to 2016 and boom. Facebook blows up with all these old hippies voting for trump.

Disheartening for me, as those were my pot smoking, beer drinking guitar playing buddies back then. Had to do the old Facebook “unfriend, unfollow and block”
 
hedge said:
I'm certainly a novice poker player at best but I didn't think Bond played badly on that (admittedly and as you correctly pointed out) highly improbable hand..
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In fairness, he played it exactly right knowing he had the screenwriter on his side
 
Definitely know some conservative Deadheads, but they're all old school repubs. Doctors and lawyers and such. I've never believed the Ann Coulter/Tucker Carlson types who claimed to be Deadheads, always figured they were just trolling in order to irk folks and stir up comments and clicks. I'm sure there are bound to be some MAGA Deadheads out there but I've not met them. Randman used to be a Deadhead but as soon as he flipped he immediately started proselytizing against the Dead, whose whole scene and ethos he rightly understood to be in stark opposition to he new worldview...
 
For pub deadheads trying to reconcile their new found political leanings with Jerry and the gang has to be some pretzel logic. I guess somethings got to give.
 
Completely agree. I do not trust polls... and the fact that its so close in Wisconsin is concerning. He flips just one of those states and we're in trouble.
 
Are there any Maga wearing tie dyed dead t shirts to trump rallies? No. There may be some FORMER deadheads attending in the red Maga hats, but they ain’t wearing tie dye, and smoking a doobie on the way to the show.
 
hedge said:
I'm certainly a novice poker player at best but I didn't think Bond played badly on that (admittedly and as you correctly pointed out) highly improbable hand..
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Well, somebody played poorly. We didn't see the whole hand, but there's no way that Bond should have been able to survive a flop with four other players each having such strong hands. This is a huge digression, of course.
 
hedge said:
Definitely know some conservative Deadheads, but they're all old school repubs. Doctors and lawyers and such. I've never believed the Ann Coulter/Tucker Carlson types who claimed to be Deadheads, always figured they were just trolling in order to irk folks and stir up comments and clicks. I'm sure there are bound to be some MAGA Deadheads out there but I've not met them. Randman used to be a Deadhead but as soon as he flipped he immediately started proselytizing against the Dead, whose whole scene and ethos he rightly understood to be in stark opposition to he new worldview...
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There are MAGA folks mad because they feel like Rage Against The Machine "turned" against them.

If there can be RATM + MAGA folks, there can certainly be MAGA Deadheads.
 
superrific said:
Well, somebody played poorly. We didn't see the whole hand, but there's no way that Bond should have been able to survive a flop with four other players each having such strong hands. This is a huge digression, of course.
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He had the nuts on the turn, everybody else needed the ace on the river to make the hands (all of them inferior to Bond's) that they ended up with...
 
336Heel said:
Everyone thought Hillary was kicking his ass too only to wake up on that Wednesday and realize Trump actually won. I'm fearful history is gonna repeat itself.
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Hillary’s campaign and the DNC took their foot off the gas at the wrong time in 2016. They mistakenly believed she didn’t need to do more to win. Hillary slowed her campaign stops and budget was shifted away and toward Senate/House races instead… she got thoroughly out-worked by trump down the stretch.

Where Hillary coasted toward the finish line, Kamala is sprinting through the tape. In the meantime, trump has been the one without that same relentless energy to campaign this time around.

I understand the scars it left, but this cycle is very different from 2016.
 
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