2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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HeelYeah2012 said:
Out of curiosity, why would no one outside of MAGA consider it legitimate if the House decided a 269-269 election?
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I don’t think it’s “illegitimate” per se, as that’s what the constitution calls for. However, I find it weird/stupid that the vote is by state delegation rather than how every other vote the House does is taken (one vote per rep).
 
duluoz said:
Hillary’s campaign and the DNC took their foot off the gas at the wrong time in 2016. They mistakenly believed she didn’t need to do more to win. Hillary slowed her campaign stops and budget was shifted away and toward Senate/House races instead… she got thoroughly out-worked by trump down the stretch.

Where Hillary coasted toward the finish line, Kamala is sprinting through the tape. In the meantime, trump has been the one without that same relentless energy to campaign this time around.

I understand the scars it left, but this cycle is very different from 2016.
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Hope you're right.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Out of curiosity, why would no one outside of MAGA consider it legitimate if the House decided a 269-269 election?
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1. As Snoop said, it's because NE Pubs would have rigged the game just to get Trump to that point.
2. Because it's an incredibly stupid way to choose a president. The EC is bad enough. But this idiotic plan gives each state equal voice, which is ludicrous and ridiculous.
3. Just because they thought it was a good idea to do it that way in 1800 doesn't mean it's remotely a good idea. And because our constitution is comically difficult to amend, especially today, we're stuck with a judgment from two centuries ago that didn't make any sense even then and definitely doesn't make any sense now.
Indeed, I don't know the 12th Amendment history, but my guess is that small states used the ludicrous amendment process to extract this concession.
 
UNCBAdookJD said:
I don’t think it’s “illegitimate” per se, as that’s what the constitution calls for. However, I find it weird/stupid that the vote is by state delegation rather than how every other vote the House does is taken (one vote per rep).
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There are lots of meanings of the word "legitimate." Following the law is only one of them. I mean, in theory, Nebraska could just have the legislators appoint all the electors without regard to the popular vote. So too could NC. That would be lawful but would clearly deprive the country of any political or democratic legitimacy and in that circumstance, we'd be looking at a choice between revolution or oppression.
 
aGDevil2k said:
Another difference.... We lived thru 2016

So now there is no over confidence. There's some fear but people won't rest.
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I have faith that women voters will save us.

Tocqueville: "If one asked me to what do I think one must principally attribute the singular prosperity and growing force of this people, I would answer that it is to the superiority of its women."
 
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