2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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I tend to think that Agdevilk gets it....hmmm, agreeing with a Dookie...meaning that voter enthusiasm and turnout are key and it's not clear that the polls are accurately capturing that sentiment.
 
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Calheel said:
Right. Cubans have been steadfast Republicans voters since the 1980s. It is the non-Cuban Latino population that has changed voting patterns.
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Univision is the main cable TV and it skews way right. And it’s really all about the Catholic Church and stances against abortion, contraception, etc… they are anti LGBTQ, and pro” family values” and all of that. It’s not surprising at all and very predictable. Of course the Cubans here are simply anti Castro and anti anything to do with Socialism, communism, etc. And the Cubans are huge racists. God forbid you “mistake” a Cubano for a Mexican or Dominican…. Or any other Latin American for that matter. Argentina is the same way.
There’s also a significant portion of the African American community which is the same way. (Anti abortion/LGBTQ) Not Catholic of course, but just the same. Loads of folks just can’t get past that stuff.
 
Seems as if I want the polling to be close and show Harris behind by just a little going into the last weeks. Seems as if it may motivate some of her voters to make sure they vote. Seems as if some of the polling in 2016 led to a false sense of security for some would be Hillary voters. Some stayed home, voted 3rd party, wrote in Bernie, etc.

Of course I could be way off base, but that’s just how it seems.
 
1moretimeagain said:
The recent polls don’t have me feeling warm and fuzzy. I’m feeling more hot and itchy.
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Same here. I don't like the way the swing states, the Blue Wall states in particular, are tightening up and trending towards Trump, even if Harris is still up in them on 538.
 
She is going to have to get back to presenting herself as the change candidate...quickly. The answer she gave on The View where she couldn't think of anything she'd do differently from Biden, AND said that she has been closely involved in most major decisions, was a monumental mistake.

Less than 30% of the country consistently says its going in the right direction, so she needs to lean more into how she will offer a new way forward. It's time to stop hobnobbing with neocons, getting so cozy to big business and take at least a somewhat tougher stance on Israel. If she doesn't make these adjustments, I think just enough enthusiasm will decline to where she doesn't turn out enough of the base.
 
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Just absurd framing by the times
“trump invokes his long held fascination with genetics”
Fuck these guys, he’s going to win

edit: this was supposed to go in the media/politics thread but still fuck them
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Weird, because if you click on the link, you get this:

Trump’s Remarks on Migrants Illustrate His Obsession With Genes​

Which isn't 100% different but has a distinctly different tone.
 
fsclark1 said:
She is going to have to get back to presenting herself as the change candidate...quickly. The answer she gave on The View where she couldn't think of anything she'd do differently from Biden, AND said that she has been closely involved in all major decisions, was a monumental mistake.

Less than 30% of the country consistently says its going in the right direction, so she needs to lean more into how she will offer a new way forward. It's time to stop hobnobbing with neocons, getting so cozy to big business and take at least a somewhat tougher stance on Israel. If she doesn't make these adjustments, I think just enough enthusiasm will decline to where she doesn't turn out enough of the base.
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This campaign has been amazing from Day One. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they know what they are doing.

If she had named something that she did differently from Biden, then that story would be the focus of the media for a week. And that will be a perceived weak spot, of course, because why would Kamala break from Biden?
 
Can you say "Russia Racist Rubes"?
Of course the Putin crowd is pushing kill yourself for the Orange leader? They are sucking it up without any sense of hypocrisy or empathy. But it's not a cult....
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Super you are really going to boside Kamala and Beetlejuice over an actual interview? Check yourself.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
Any of you guys disappointed in Kamala for not throwing Biden under the bus don't really understand who Kamala Harris is.
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Well, I wasn't wanting Kamala to throw Biden under the bus. I think there would have been a way to answer that question on the view by actually accentuating the best and most popular things Biden has done in his administration, while taking the opportunity to show how she would go in a different or new direction on other issues, without any particular negative language or clear disapproval.

I get that it wasn't an easy question, but some smart answers to difficult questions like that can bolster her bona fides as a change candidate, since that had been working well for her earlier in the campaign.
 
fsclark1 said:
Well, I wasn't wanting Kamala to throw Biden under the bus. I think there would have been a way to answer that question on the view by actually accentuating the best and most popular things Biden has done in his administration, while taking the opportunity to show how she would go in a different or new direction on other issues, without any particular negative language or clear disapproval.

I get that it wasn't an easy question, but some smart answers to difficult questions like that can bolster her bona fides as a change candidate, since that had been working well for her earlier in the campaign.
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Agree with this^^^
 
fsclark1 said:
She is going to have to get back to presenting herself as the change candidate...quickly. The answer she gave on The View where she couldn't think of anything she'd do differently from Biden, AND said that she has been closely involved in most major decisions, was a monumental mistake.
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This is an example of the ridiculously high double standard Harris is held to. She doesn’t separate herself from a role she’s held for 4 years, or throw her boss under the bus…a boss who has a stellar record..and it’s a monumental mistake.

Trump shits on the Constitution and the foundation of our democracy daily, has the self control of a crazy/senile/racist/drunk uncle, and does & says things regularly that would have killed any other candidates’ chances years ago, and his polling improves.

Americans suck.
 
RockyMtnHoo said:
This is an example of the ridiculously high double standard Harris is held to. She doesn’t separate herself from a role she’s held for 4 years, or throw her boss under the bus…a boss who has a stellar record..and it’s a monumental mistake.

Trump shits on the Constitution and the foundation of our democracy daily, has the self control of a crazy/senile/racist/drunk uncle, and does & says things regularly that would have killed any other candidates’ chances years ago, and his polling improves.

Americans suck.
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His “polling” is BS.
 
CallMeTyler said:
It's so silly it's hard to decide if we should laugh or cry.

I love the weekly, logical, completely normal shifts in polling week to week:

Week 1 - Kamala up 4 to 6% in (name whatever state).
Week 2 (after Trump has made despicable statements) - "Gee wiz guys, Trump has now flipped the polling and is suddenly up 3% in a week!"

It's nonsense.
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It is hard to take the polls seriously-I pay attention to the ones where"my gal " is ahead. lol
 
mpaer said:
It is hard to take the polls seriously-I pay attention to the ones where"my gal " is ahead. lol
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I'm glad the polling is so close. I'd even wager to say that polling will keep everyone alert and focused on voting. If huge leads drove complacency, that could only help Trump and I would prefer we avoid the whole 2016 scenario. Although with early voting showing strong turnout, new voter registrations showing record turnout, and significant fundraising for Kamala, I like the direction we're in.

Add in Republican's enthusiasm waning relative to Democrats and I'm leaning towards a more hopeful conclusion to this election.
 
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