2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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HeelingAg said:
It’s why I’ve had to ignore this poster. They have little respect for the feedback they’ve been given, nor the explicit actions (new threads) the board took to accommodate their meltdowns.
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That’s how you do it. If you don’t like me as a poster just ignore me. I have many on ignore.
 
aGDevil2k said:
So the whole GOP early vote push, I'm seeing, is to push the narrative that they are doing so much better compared to 2020 at this point... And so if Democrats start to do better because there is no election day red surge like there used to be, they can claim fraud
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Yeah - they are going to claim fraud, regardless.
 

These Americans told our pollsters Trump is a fascist. They’ll still vote for him​

Among registered voters who say Trump is a fascist, 8% support him anyway.

“… Analia, (ABC News is not using last names for privacy reasons) a 46-year-old accounting tour operator and former Democrat from Florida, explained she leans toward Trump because of his policies.

"I don't like him as the person that he chose to be, but I like his politics," she said. "But as a human being, I would never support."

When asked about an authoritarian leader, she said, "I think it's good for the country. I think we need some sort of order. I do like those kinds of things from [Trump]."

… One woman who wished to remain anonymous -- but disclosed she also previously identified as a liberal Democrat -- agreed that Trump fits the definition of a fascist -- on a personal level.

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"Personally, he's a fascist," she said. "Professionally wise, as president, I think he would do a good job."

"We can call our bosses fascist. Doesn't mean that they're not good bosses," she said.

She also said she would be fine with Trump imposing an authoritarian government, arguing that "somebody needs to impose some type of leadership."

… [another Trump voter who thinks he is a fascist] He also expressed that he does not think Trump can impose fascism in America.

"I don't think he can actually implement it, but I do see him as at least trying," he said.

… Forty-two-year old Mindy from North Carolina told ABC News Trump "definitely" fits the definition of a fascist, and responded affirmatively when asked if she supported authoritarian leadership.

Despite that, she said she doesn't think Trump would take away personal freedoms. "Kamala Harris is taking away our freedom," she argued.

A conservative Republican who works in home health care, Mindy brought up abortion and said that "it's a woman's choice for what she wants to do with her body," agreeing that she would consider herself to be "pro-choice."

At the same time, though, Mindy said she would continue to support Trump even if he were to impose restrictions on abortion.“
 
nycfan said:

These Americans told our pollsters Trump is a fascist. They’ll still vote for him​

Forty-two-year old Mindy from North Carolina told ABC News Trump "definitely" fits the definition of a fascist, and responded affirmatively when asked if she supported authoritarian leadership.

Despite that, she said she doesn't think Trump would take away personal freedoms. "Kamala Harris is taking away our freedom," she argued.
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Which freedoms, Mindy?? Be specific!

Unbelievably stupid.
 
1moretimeagain said:
Harris underperforming Biden among women wouldn’t be great.
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I'll believe it when I see it. But remember, Biden won by almost 5 points nationally. So in a race where she's leading by 1 point nationally, she's going to underperform Biden in 2020 among many demos.

It doesn't matter how well Biden did or didn't do among women in Iowa.
 
nycfan said:
Dead Heat

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Just so I get this straight, since 2020, Roe v Wade has been overturned, numerous red states have adopted draconian anti-abortion laws, every single abortion ballot initiative that has been put to a vote has overwhelmingly been voted for, even in red states…and somehow, Kamala is UNDERPERFORMING with women compared to 2020?

Sometimes it becomes readily apparent which polls aren’t worth paying attention to. This would be one of them.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
Just so I get this straight, since 2020, Roe v Wade has been overturned, numerous red states have adopted draconian anti-abortion laws, every single abortion ballot initiative that has been put to a vote has overwhelmingly been voted for, even in red states…and somehow, Kamala is UNDERPERFORMING with women compared to 2020?

Sometimes it becomes readily apparent which polls aren’t worth paying attention to. This would be one of them.
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No. We don't get to discount a poll because we don't like what it's telling us. That's the HRC 2016 strategy.

Women vote on many issues other than abortion. You know, because mostly women and men share similar life experiences in our daily lives. And the success of those abortion ballot initiatives in red states only shows that abortion isn't necessarily the most important issue. It's an important issue, but these referenda are revealing plenty of HYs. He says he's pro-choice but he doesn't care about the issue enough to vote for candidates on its basis. Well, apparently there are a lot of them.

This is a great example, though, of why you should look at polling averages. Don't try to judge which polls are good and aren't good based on your preconceived notions of what they should look like. It's tempting to discount polls that look ridiculous. I've done it. But outside of true absurdity, it's just not a good idea.
 
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