HeelInTheOzarks
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For sure. That’s the part nobody can know.This all depends on the total number of early vs. in person. The bigger number matters massively.
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For sure. That’s the part nobody can know.This all depends on the total number of early vs. in person. The bigger number matters massively.
Well we know that Michigan is already past 50% of 2020 turnout. And they have a few more days of early voting. Even if you’re conservative and say 500K more people vote than 2020, it would still favor Harris.For sure. That’s the part nobody can know.
The 538 model is, at this point, just going by polls. The polls make it look as though it's a 50/50 race. The model doesn't consider other factors like turnout, enthusiasm, early voting, etc. It's just a polls-only model right now.I don't get the 538 model still having Trump a slight favorite. Based on everything I am seeing, Harris a not a slight favorite, but I think probable to win. I think the NYT needled may start with a toss up but shift toward Harris relatively quickly after results start coming in. I live in a heavily Republican area, and there just isn't the same enthusiasm. I think Harris will ultimately just have a better ground game and just get more people to the polls.
Extraordinarily tiny sample size, so obviously take it with a massive grain of salt. Interesting nonetheless.
Unfortunately, the Cubans will ensure that Florida stays red. Trump inexplicably is at his all time high favorability with Cubans (68%).Holy shit, that poll was in the field before MSG.
I'm guessing the temporal breakdown is something like:
Polled before MSG: Kamala 60-40
After MSG: Kamala 95-3
Talking crap about Puerto Ricans, Haitians, and Latinos is always popular among Cubanos…..especially the Hispanic Cubanos.Unfortunately, the Cubans will ensure that Florida stays red. Trump inexplicably is at his all time high favorability with Cubans (68%).
I'd love to see it when you're doneWell we know that Michigan is already past 50% of 2020 turnout. And they have a few more days of early voting. Even if you’re conservative and say 500K more people vote than 2020, it would still favor Harris.
Need to do some napkin math on the Pa and Wisconsin numbers but i believe they also favor Harris
Which to me is hilarious because MAGA’s (and very likely Trump himself) don’t see them as one bit different from the other groups.Talking crap about Puerto Ricans, Haitians, and Latinos is always popular among Cubanos…..especially the Hispanic Cubanos.
with some rounding.I'd love to see it when you're done
My great-uncle (b. 1910 or so) was a highly successful salesman for General Mills or General Foods. He was also the most racist MFer I’ve ever met.Which to me is hilarious because MAGA’s (and very likely Trump himself) don’t see them as one bit different from the other groups.
So, your “back-of-the-napkin” math says this is the final result?with some rounding.
Michigan, roughly 2.8 mil votes already. 5.5 mil total votes. based on these poll numbers
Harris- 2.8 mil -50.9%
Trump- 2.6 mil- 47.3%
Wisconsin. roughly 1.5 mil so far, 3.5 mil total votes.
Harris - 1.755 mil- 50.1%
Trump- 1.65 mil- 47.2%
PS- almost 2 million total votes early, 7 million total
Harris- 3.46 mil- 49.4%
Trump- 3.4 mil- 48.6%
You must use those expensive hotel dinner napkinswith some rounding.
Michigan, roughly 2.8 mil votes already. 5.5 mil total votes. based on these poll numbers
Harris- 2.8 mil -50.9%
Trump- 2.6 mil- 47.3%
Wisconsin. roughly 1.5 mil so far, 3.5 mil total votes.
Harris - 1.755 mil- 50.1%
Trump- 1.65 mil- 47.2%
PS- almost 2 million total votes early, 7 million total
Harris- 3.46 mil- 49.4%
Trump- 3.4 mil- 48.6%
That was just basing that off the quoted Marist poll numbers, the actual early vote numbers and a guesstimate of total votes. I expect it to be closer in both michigan and WisconsinSo, your “back-of-the-napkin” math says this is the final result?
- 60K delta for Harris in PA
- 110+K in Wisky
- 200K in Michigan
No offense……..you expect it to be closer (and, this is just you spit-balling using one poll?)…..SMGDH until it hurts.That was just basing that off the quoted Marist poll numbers, the actual early vote numbers and a guesstimate of total votes. I expect it to be closer in both michigan and Wisconsin
if you want to ignore the polls, then i would probably get off the thread that’s titled “Political Polls and turnout data”No offense……..you expect it to be closer (and, this is just you spit-balling using one poll?)…..SMGDH until it hurts.
Ignore the polls.
Do whatever you can to increase Democratic turn-out between now and polls closing on Tuesday.