2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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Icky Mettle said:
Back to the sign game: I have now seen more Trump signs in yards in Charlotte during this election than I did in 2016 or 2020. Back in 2016 and 2020, I saw between 10 and 15 Trump signs in yards. This year, I’ve seen well over 30. They are vastly outnumbered by Harris/Walz signs by at least a 5:1 ratio. But it is amazing to me that I’ve seen so many more Trump signs than in the past, as there are even more reasons now to be embarrassed by admitting you support Trump than there were in previous elections.

On a related note, I parked near a house today that had a Trump sign in its yard and also had a Mark Robinson sign in its yard. That is the first and only Mark Robinson sign I have seen in anyone’s yard in Charlotte this year.
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My experience in Charlotte has been the complete opposite. Over the last 20+ years or so, have lived in Plaza Midwood, Park Rd area and now live in Elizabeth. Granted these are strong Dem areas but 2016 and 2020 I’d see signs for Trump In the 20% range. Driving in these areas the last couple of months and I have seen 2-3 houses with Trump. That’s it. They were HUGE Trump displays but still. The rest are Dem, e.g. Harris/Walz, Stein, Jackson etc. Where I see all the Trump signs are on public grounds like grass medians or outside shopping centers.
 
DiehardHeelFan said:
My experience in Charlotte has been the complete opposite. Over the last 20+ years or so, have lived in Plaza Midwood, Park Rd area and now live in Elizabeth. Granted these are strong Dem areas but 2016 and 2020 I’d see signs for Trump In the 20% range. Driving in these areas the last couple of months and I have seen 2-3 houses with Trump. That’s it. They were HUGE Trump displays but still. The rest are Dem, e.g. Harris/Walz, Stein, Jackson etc. Where I see all the Trump signs are on public grounds like grass medians or outside shopping centers.
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We have some things in common. I used to live in Elizabeth and now live in the Park Road area (right by Park Road Shopping Center). I have seen more Trump signs in the Myers Park area than I had seen in previous election years. I work in Dilworth and often drive by three houses on Tremont that have Trump signs. They seem really out of place there. And then of course you see the bulk of them when you drive through neighborhoods farther south in the city.
 
superrific said:
With all due respect, if you're going to post a tweet from some obscure person, could you explain who that person is? There is nothing about Spencer Hakiman's bio that suggests he is doing anything differently than we are -- i.e. just eyeballing numbers and scratching on cocktail napkins. Maybe I'm wrong and he's someone in the know.

I just don't think it's helpful to post random stuff. Someone posted that 400K firewall thing, and I had thought it came from the campaign somehow, but really it was a 23 year old banging on a spreadsheet.

So, is it too much to ask to describe the source. I mean, "random guy but funny" is fine. As is "this random guy thinks 60% in Allegheny is it."

Note that the margin in 2020 was almost exactly 60-40. So this guy almost surely picked that data point, made it the O/U line and sent it into the ether.
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It was quick shorthand opportunity to post something I’ve heard and read several times from political analysts recently.

Biden netted ten of thousands more votes in Allegheny than Clinton, and the speculation is Harris may need to out-perform Biden slightly due to expected turnout upticks in surrounding red counties juiced by the assassination attempt on Trump in nearby Butler PA.
 
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Icky Mettle said:
We have some things in common. I used to live in Elizabeth and now live in the Park Road area (right by Park Road Shopping Center). I have seen more Trump signs in the Myers Park area than I had seen in previous election years. I work in Dilworth and often drive by three houses on Tremont that have Trump signs. They seem really out of place there. And then of course you see the bulk of them when you drive through neighborhoods farther south in the city.
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Park Rd is probably the area of the 3 I travel the least lately. Plaza Midwood and Elizabeth I’m around all the time. That’s where I’ve seen 2 big Trump displays, but the rest of the houses are all some combination of Dem signs. Granted don’t hit every street but still. Driving down Plaza heading to Central and it’s all Harris/Walz except this mini-billboard of a sign for Trump. I know these areas are strong Dem having grown up in PM. I would still see Trump signs on Truman, Mecklenburg, Belvedere or Dearmon (forgot its original name) and so on. Now I can’t say I’ve seen one.

Driving down Kings heading towards Freedom Park area, all Harris/Walz. All anecdotal but trying to grab ahold of any hope that I can 😀
 
DiehardHeelFan said:
Park Rd is probably the area of the 3 I travel the least lately. Plaza Midwood and Elizabeth I’m around all the time. That’s where I’ve seen 2 big Trump displays, but the rest of the houses are all some combination of Dem signs. Granted don’t hit every street but still. Driving down Plaza heading to Central and it’s all Harris/Walz except this mini-billboard of a sign for Trump. I know these areas are strong Dem having grown up in PM. I would still see Trump signs on Truman, Mecklenburg, Belvedere or Dearmon (forgot its original name) and so on. Now I can’t say I’ve seen one.

Driving down Kings heading towards Freedom Park area, all Harris/Walz. All anecdotal but trying to grab ahold of any hope that I can 😀
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I just drove from my house to the Pasta & Provisions on Park Road. There are four houses in the little section of Selwyn that runs between Woodlawn/Runnymede and Park Road that have Trump signs. Probably the biggest cluster in the city.
 
nycfan said:
It was quick shorthand opportunity to post something I’ve heard and read several times from political analysts recently.

Biden netted ten of thousands more votes in Allegheny than Clinton, and the speculation is Harris may need to out-perform Biden slightly due to expected turnout upticks in surrounding red counties juiced by the assassination attempt on Trump in nearby Butler PA.
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Got it. It's BS, though. Maybe that was true before MSG. But it seems likely that Kamala is going to get a swing of 20-30K votes from PR voters, especially in and around Allentown, so that reduces pressure on Allegheny (which will go 60% for Kamala).

I will never understand why an assassination attempt would make you more excited to vote for a candidate.
 
Icky Mettle said:
I just drove from my house to the Pasta & Provisions on Park Road. There are four houses in the little section of Selwyn that runs between Woodlawn/Runnymede and Park Road that have Trump signs. Probably the biggest cluster in the city.
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Yeah, you usually don’t see them back to back or in groups. All of the ones I have seen regardless of neighborhood are isolated. Now, drive into Union County ha. Believe Trump is speaking in Gastonia today. Not sure how to read that, though Union has drifted away from Trump/Pubs a little so might be an effort to get it back to 2016 percentages.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Back to the sign game: I have now seen more Trump signs in yards in Charlotte during this election than I did in 2016 or 2020. Back in 2016 and 2020, I saw between 10 and 15 Trump signs in yards. This year, I’ve seen well over 30. They are vastly outnumbered by Harris/Walz signs by at least a 5:1 ratio. But it is amazing to me that I’ve seen so many more Trump signs than in the past, as there are even more reasons now to be embarrassed by admitting you support Trump than there were in previous elections.

On a related note, I parked near a house today that had a Trump sign in its yard and also had a Mark Robinson sign in its yard. That is the first and only Mark Robinson sign I have seen in anyone’s yard in Charlotte this year.
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Are you seeing them at intersections and in right of ways? My guess is you are seeing what the county GOP is putting out
 
heelinhell said:
You may not blame them, but I blame any voter ( and especially young voters because it is their future that hangs in the balance ) for not voting
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I must have been cut from different cloth than most when I was young. I voted in my first election I was eligible to do so in 1992 at age 19. I admittedly didn’t vote in 1994, and was out of the country in 1996 and didn’t know about absentee voting, but I’ve voted in every off year election starting in 1998 at age 25 and every presidential election since 2000 at age 27. I didn’t start reliably voting in primary elections, though, until 2012.

My favorite voting memory is 2002, when we lived off of Mason Farm Road. My voting location was the church (which looms now to be a synagogue) at Mason Farm and Purefoy. When I went in to get my ballot, the old ladies at the table were incredulous that I was registered to vote, but there was my name, right there in the voting rolls. I smugly smiled at them when they handed me my ballot and went and did my civic duty.

Another thing I find interesting is that it took years before my wife would come with me to vote in off year elections.
 
I recently moved from Elizabeth to Fourth Ward. I am regularly driving through Elizabeth, Uptown, and Plaza Midwood, and it's rare to see a Trump sign. I had to drive down to SouthPark yesterday for a medical appointment and Sharon Rd between Wendover and Sharon Amity was a goddamn Trumpfest. I even saw a couple Hal Leatherman signs. Those people in Foxcroft have no shame.

(I'm talking about signs in yards, not the garbage littering the medians on Providence Rd.)
 
farce© said:
I recently moved from Elizabeth to Fourth Ward. I am regularly driving through Elizabeth, Uptown, and Plaza Midwood, and it's rare to see a Trump sign. I had to drive down to SouthPark yesterday for a medical appointment and Sharon Rd between Wendover and Sharon Amity was a goddamn Trumpfest. I even saw a couple Hal Leatherman signs. Those people in Foxcroft have no shame.

(I'm talking about signs in yards, not the garbage littering the medians on Providence Rd.)
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I thought you lived in Ohio. Am I confusing you for someone else?
 
Huge day of voting yesterday from the Hispanic vote in NC. 4% of the registered voters turned out. Total turnout from that population is only 30% so far, which is about half of the white turnout, but I'm told Hispanics vote on ED.

Black vote is about 11 points behind white vote. Need big turnout on ED. Maybe not "need" but chances are not great, I think, without better from the black community.
 
superrific said:
Huge day of voting yesterday from the Hispanic vote in NC. 4% of the registered voters turned out. Total turnout from that population is only 30% so far, which is about half of the white turnout, but I'm told Hispanics vote on ED.

Black vote is about 11 points behind white vote. Need big turnout on ED. Maybe not "need" but chances are not great, I think, without better from the black community.
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Imagine this might help.
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North Carolina's historically Black colleges are mobilizing for Nov. 5, tapping an activist history

North Carolina's 10 historically Black colleges are going all out to get their nearly 40,000 students to vote.
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