2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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If the Iowa poll is true, and the election ends up being not even close, it may actually make the MAGATS double down on the cheating accusations, because they’ll say there’s no way she won by that much.


But I guess they are going to do that no matter what, so bring it on I guess
That poll could be true and Trump could max out the margin of error + run the table with undecideds enough to still win Iowa by a healthy margin.
 
If this turns out to be right, then all the progressives complaining about Kamala working with Liz Cheney need to STFU. For a very long time.
i'm one of them and will happily eat my crow if Kamala wins on the backs of former/never-Trump Republicans. i just can't really get over how little the Lincoln Project actually ended up mattering in 2020. I don't trust Republican voters to not vote for Republicans, and to in fact vote for a Black woman Dem, until I see it happen.

ettinger tweeting a joke like this is a big deal to me. feel like he'd be much more likely to be a doomer who avoided tempting fate at all costs.
 

I posted this before and I'll say it again - I'm in my 50s and I've been through many presidential elections, and my "gut instinct" since Kamala became the candidate has consistently been that she's going to win, and by a larger margin than Biden. And I've felt that way mainly because I get the sense that Trump fatigue is real, even among some Republicans. Yet at the same time I've simply been unable to convince myself that she's actually going to win, largely because of the lingering effects of the 2016 shocker and the fact that Trump in 2020 actually increased his vote by 11 million, despite his disastrous handling of the pandemic, among other things. Put simply, I won't believe he's actually going to lose until all the television networks declare Kamala the winner and the electoral vote has been counted on January 6.
 
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This is the path to a Trump victory that I continue to worry about: that his hyper-online campaign focusing on Musk, RFK, and the blogging manosphere turns out unprecedented numbers of low-propensity voters (males who are young and/or not college educated) and they are enough to propel him to close wins in several swing states. That was the campaign’s big strategic swing. And IMO this election is basically going to be a referendum on whether you can win a campaign largely premised on online disinformation that can not only win over those low-propensity voters but also get them to vote.
 
This is the path to a Trump victory that I continue to worry about: that his hyper-online campaign focusing on Musk, RFK, and the blogging manosphere turns out unprecedented numbers of low-propensity voters (males who are young and/or not college educated) and they are enough to propel him to close wins in several swing states. That was the campaign’s big strategic swing. And IMO this election is basically going to be a referendum on whether you can win a campaign largely premised on online disinformation that can not only win over those low-propensity voters but also get them to vote.
This is literally my exact same fear.

A campaign full of energized people online, that don’t canvass, that aren’t at events, that just will vote to troll America.
 
This is literally my exact same fear.

A campaign full of energized people online, that don’t canvass, that aren’t at events, that just will vote to troll America.
Here’s an example of this;



If you don’t know anything about the “executed” squirrel Elon is talking about, congratulations: you’re a normal person. But Elon Musk has been posting about it all day!
 
This is literally my exact same fear.

A campaign full of energized people online, that don’t canvass, that aren’t at events, that just will vote to troll America.
I think that's the main reason his cult will turn out in droves to vote for him. Whatever they may claim, it's not because they agree with his policies (what policies - he's all over the place and contradicts himself constantly), they're voting for him so they can troll the libs and watch them cry after he wins. I've seen Trumpers on Facebook who still post videos of Hillary supporters crying the day after the 2016 election, and it still brings them great joy. If Trump wins on Tuesday it'll be a disaster for the country, but they don't care, as they will have achieved their goal of being able to troll liberals on social media and message boards the day after. It's what they do and who they are now.
 
Harris is not winning Iowa. That is only one poll, another poll shows Trump with a comfortable lead.
 
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