2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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100% anecdotal of course, but enthusiasm for Trump is way way down vs 2020. I just had to take the family on all of the fall-y agritourism stuff and so spent most of the day driving rural Virginia country roads in 5 or 6 counties Trump won by huge margins in 2020. In 2020, nearly every farm had a Trump sign in the front, some full custom jobs and nearly the size of billboards. This year you could count on one hand the number of signs for Trump, and all but one were the very basic standard sized political signs. But even more surprising was there were at least as many Harris signs, possibly even more. I drove these exact roads in 2020 and the difference is extremely noticeable. Trump is still going to crush Harris in these counties, but the margins will definitely be slimmer. Most of these people will still vote for him, but it seems like at least some of them have some shame about it this go-around, which hopefully means his turnout will be depressed.
 
wmheel1287 said:
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Thats because many Hispanic cultures are FAR more racist to Mexicans than even the most virulent American right wingers. As long as Trump portrays Mexicans in the worst possible light, he will have the votes of many Hispanic groups.
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I have heard multiple stories of Cuban-Americans in Florida engaging in open discrimination against people from other Hispanic groups - especially those whom they suspect of being here illegally.
 
Icky Mettle said:
I think one big thing is that for the vast majority of black and Hispanic voters, there was virtually nothing relatable about the “Country Club Republicans” who dominated Republican politics before Trump came along. Trump may be overtly racist and anti-immigrant, but there are things about him that some black and Hispanic people (mainly men) may find relatable, unlike with the old school Country Club Republicans.

I think one other thing with regard to Hispanic voters that is relevant specifically to Kamala Harris is that there is a not insignificant number of Hispanic people who harbor prejudices against black people.
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There is a lot to that I think?
These "hierarchy" stories remind me of my old prison Visitation days
Murderers said "look at those filthy rapists over there"
Rapists said "Hell the muderers get out in 10 years-I didn't kill anybody and I will be here for life "
There was usually a Lawyer or Doctor in custody.. Most of the other guys were like 'Hell unlike the rest of us they had a pretty good life they screwed up "
 
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I put some Harris/Walz signs at road junctions in my rural NC county yesterday- alongside (but not obscuring) the Trump signs. They were gone this morning.
 
uncleradar said:
I put some Harris/Walz signs at road junctions in my rural NC county yesterday- alongside (but not obscuring) the Trump signs. They were gone this morning.
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There were a ton of Kamala signs about three weeks ago around the WS Fairgrounds complex. All over University Parkway.

They were gone in 3 days.

Republicans are taking Democrat signs. They know it's illegal and they don't care.
 
Scenario: Trump wins the election. Trump continues his erratic behavior once in office. Vance invokes the 4th Section of the 25th Amendment and assumes the office and powers of the President, until such time as a physician of Vance's choosing declares Trump fit to return to office, i.e., never.

Question: Under the above set of circumstances, when Vance assumes power and begins the inevitable round-up of undesirables, will that fact that I have and regularly use a PayPal account (PayPal being founded, owned, and run by the same person who founded, owns, and runs Vance, Peter Thiel) be enough to keep me out of the re-education camps?
 
UNCBAdookJD said:
100% anecdotal of course, but so far Trump is way way down vs 2020. I just had to take the family on all of the fall-y agritourism stuff and so spent most of the day driving rural Virginia country roads in 5 or 6 counties Trump won by huge margins in 2020. In 2020, nearly every farm had a Trump sign in the front, some full custom jobs and nearly the size of billboards. This year you could count on one hand the number of signs for Trump, and all but one were the very basic standard sized political signs. But even more surprising was there were at least as many Harris signs, possibly even more. I drove these exact roads in 2020 and the difference is extremely noticeable. Trump is still going to crush Harris in these counties, but the margins will definitely be slimmer. Most of these people will still vote for him, but it seems like at least some of them have some shame about it this go-around, which hopefully means his turnout will be depressed.
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this is also my experience.

in 2020, 4-5 of my neighbors had trump signs in their yard. there is not a single trump sign in my neighborhood right now.

you see them out in public along roadways but there are definitely noticeably less on private property.
 
uncleradar said:
I put some Harris/Walz signs at road junctions in my rural NC county yesterday- alongside (but not obscuring) the Trump signs. They were gone this morning.
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several harris/walz signs disappeared in my parents neighborhood recently, too. luckily the local dem groups have been generous and everyone had backups.

i never see republican signs disappearing. weird.
 


Trying to deflect on his own refusal to release customary medical records I guess
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05C40 said:
Scenario: Trump wins the election. Trump continues his erratic behavior once in office. Vance invokes the 4th Section of the 25th Amendment and assumes the office and powers of the President, until such time as a physician of Vance's choosing declares Trump fit to return to office, i.e., never.

Question: Under the above set of circumstances, when Vance assumes power and begins the inevitable round-up of undesirables, will that fact that I have and regularly use a PayPal account (PayPal being founded, owned, and run by the same person who founded, owns, and runs Vance, Peter Thiel) be enough to keep me out of the re-education camps?
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No chance my dude. You’ll be fully fucked.
 
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