2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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lawtig02 said:
Then why did he do the Bloomberg interview yesterday? That was a freaking disaster for his campaign.
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Good question. A couple of theories:

  • Cancelling too many interviews looks bad
  • His campaign may have wanted Trump to cancel, but we know his campaign often has trouble controlling him
  • They may have thought, despite the result, that it was a good interview opportunity
 
ZenMode said:
Good question. A couple of theories:

  • Cancelling too many interviews looks bad
  • His campaign may have wanted Trump to cancel, but we know his campaign often has trouble controlling him
  • They may have thought, despite the result, that it was a good interview opportunity
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Razor think internal poll advantages is probably not the driver to cancel appearances.
 
quakerdevil said:
That word has been off the table since the early 2010's. It's use at this point is deliberate.
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Agree. And I believe Illinithor used it twice, on two separate comments before the censorship and warning took place. Then, instead of tucking tail between legs and whimpering off, never to be seen or heard from again ‘round these parts, he come back with a mea culpa. One in my estimation rings hollow.

But I don’t have em on ignore just yet. But patience is worn thin already with this chap.

I used to teach CTE classes (Career and Technical Education) and I had students of all stripes rotate into my program all of the time. CTE classes are the perfect sort of hands-on classes which folks can really appreciate and utilize in their daily lives. All the Exceptional Children department folk loved me and my classes. And I loved those kids and was honored to have them in my classes. And one of the really neat things is ALL my students would help each other and really look after those who may need a helping hand. The “Regular Ed” students really had the backs of the EC students. And God forbid if anybody “made fun of” or disparaged in any way students with any sort of disability.

How anyone could support trump after the way he mocked that reporter back in 2016 is totally beyond me. I was never gonna vote for that guy anyway, but after he showed his backside on that particular occasion was absolutely the straw that broke the camel’s back.
 
Upvote for the updated thread title. Once again, nycfan finds a way to soothe members of both warring chronometer camps...
 

Voting rights groups say Wisconsin students got texts that could scare them away from voting, call for investigation​



A text message last week to young voters in Wisconsin is stirring new concerns in the battleground state about a messaging campaign that could intimidate college students from casting ballots this election, according to a letter from voter protection groups released Tuesday.

The unsolicited text, sent from at least one 262- number to cell phones of people in their early 20s on University of Wisconsin campuses and elsewhere, says: “WARNING: Violating WI Statutes 12.13 & 6.18 may result in fines up to $10,000 or 3.5 years in prison. Don’t vote in a state where you’re not eligible.”

The two state codes that the text message cites refer to laws that govern former Wisconsin residents who vote absentee and the consequences of committing election fraud in the state.

But it’s the text message’s warning and wording of “don’t vote” that are causing much of the alarm among the voter protection groups who call the message “threatening” and warn the message could “frighten eligible young voters into not voting.”

“It’s trying to convince students living in Wisconsin they don’t have a right to vote there,” Courtney Hostetler, the legal director of the non-profit group Free Speech for People, said on Tuesday.

Hostetler’s group and the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin alerted investigators and the public of the text message and their concerns about it on Tuesday, in a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland and Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul that the groups released publicly online. The letter urges Garland and Kaul to investigate.

The League said it had learned about the text message from some of its own staff members who are in their 20s and from a community outreach center at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

Mark Pitsch, the university system’s spokesman, said the Universities of Wisconsin “have no indication how many students may have received such texts, which also may have been received by members of the general public.” Pitsch added that his office hadn’t received specific reports about the text message as of Tuesday.

Hostetler said her group fears voter intimidation campaigns could be effective if they go undetected.

“If it’s successful, people won’t report it. They’ll just believe it,” she said. “It’s scary, and it makes people really think [that] the safest thing may be for me to not vote.”

College students may be susceptible to the text messages, Hostetler added, given that students may not know where they are eligible to vote and if they can vote while living on their college campus away from home.

In Wisconsin, students who have lived in one voting area for 28 consecutive days and plan to continue staying there can vote in those places, according to the state’s election commission. Even if a college student returns to his or her parent’s house on weekends temporarily, they can still vote where they primarily live, such as on a college campus, the Wisconsin Election Commission’s guide for students says.

“Once a student has established residency at a campus address, the student may vote using the student’s campus address until the student establishes a new voting residence,” the WEC guide says. “This is the case even if the student is temporarily away from campus and does not know their campus address for the following school year.”

Meagan Wolfe, the administrator of the Wisconsin Elections Commission, said Wednesday that “a couple of voters” had contacted the commission with concerns about the text.

“Our best guidance to folks is, again, if you’re getting these concerning or questionable contacts from third-party groups, I wouldn’t trust that information, I would go right to the official source – I’d call your election official,” Wolfe said. “And of course, if a voter feels like something that they’ve received constitutes as voter intimidation, they should also report it to their law enforcement as well, so that they can look into it.”

Free Speech for the People and the League’s letter on Tuesday specifically asks for law enforcement authorities to identify who sent the text and investigate it further.

The organizations said they haven’t heard back yet from the authorities they wrote to seeking help, and the Wisconsin attorney general’s office didn’t immediately respond to an inquiry from CNN.

“We want a larger investigative engine than any of our little nonprofits to figure out who is behind this text message,” Debra Cronmiller, president of the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin, told CNN on Tuesday.

She said the text message is the type of intimidation tactic her organization had envisioned could happen this election cycle — though significant situations of widespread voter intimidation in the past have been spread more often via robocall or AI-generated voice recordings.
 
CallMeTyler said:
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Crypto betting site backed by Peter Thiel faces accusations it is being exploited to fake support for Trump

Somebody is placing big bets on Trump.
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Who was the clown on the ZZL-P obsessed with Polymarket as the key indicator on voter sentiment?

Also, is anyone surprised by this, especially having Peter Thiel attached to it?
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It's not Thiel's fault unless he's the ones placing big bets. But obviously Polymarket has nowhere near enough liquidity or accessibility to make it a gauge of sentiment.
 
superrific said:
It's not Thiel's fault unless he's the ones placing big bets. But obviously Polymarket has nowhere near enough liquidity or accessibility to make it a gauge of sentiment.
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I'd say let's get through the election before we write Polymarket's eulogy, but I do think these are significant issues to remember when looking at Polymarket.
 
milom98 said:

Voting rights groups say Wisconsin students got texts that could scare them away from voting, call for investigation​



A text message last week to young voters in Wisconsin is stirring new concerns in the battleground state about a messaging campaign that could intimidate college students from casting ballots this election, according to a letter from voter protection groups released Tuesday.

The unsolicited text, sent from at least one 262- number to cell phones of people in their early 20s on University of Wisconsin campuses and elsewhere, says: “WARNING: Violating WI Statutes 12.13 & 6.18 may result in fines up to $10,000 or 3.5 years in prison. Don’t vote in a state where you’re not eligible.”

The two state codes that the text message cites refer to laws that govern former Wisconsin residents who vote absentee and the consequences of committing election fraud in the state.

But it’s the text message’s warning and wording of “don’t vote” that are causing much of the alarm among the voter protection groups who call the message “threatening” and warn the message could “frighten eligible young voters into not voting.”

“It’s trying to convince students living in Wisconsin they don’t have a right to vote there,” Courtney Hostetler, the legal director of the non-profit group Free Speech for People, said on Tuesday.

Hostetler’s group and the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin alerted investigators and the public of the text message and their concerns about it on Tuesday, in a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland and Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul that the groups released publicly online. The letter urges Garland and Kaul to investigate.

The League said it had learned about the text message from some of its own staff members who are in their 20s and from a community outreach center at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

Mark Pitsch, the university system’s spokesman, said the Universities of Wisconsin “have no indication how many students may have received such texts, which also may have been received by members of the general public.” Pitsch added that his office hadn’t received specific reports about the text message as of Tuesday.

Hostetler said her group fears voter intimidation campaigns could be effective if they go undetected.

“If it’s successful, people won’t report it. They’ll just believe it,” she said. “It’s scary, and it makes people really think [that] the safest thing may be for me to not vote.”

College students may be susceptible to the text messages, Hostetler added, given that students may not know where they are eligible to vote and if they can vote while living on their college campus away from home.

In Wisconsin, students who have lived in one voting area for 28 consecutive days and plan to continue staying there can vote in those places, according to the state’s election commission. Even if a college student returns to his or her parent’s house on weekends temporarily, they can still vote where they primarily live, such as on a college campus, the Wisconsin Election Commission’s guide for students says.

“Once a student has established residency at a campus address, the student may vote using the student’s campus address until the student establishes a new voting residence,” the WEC guide says. “This is the case even if the student is temporarily away from campus and does not know their campus address for the following school year.”

Meagan Wolfe, the administrator of the Wisconsin Elections Commission, said Wednesday that “a couple of voters” had contacted the commission with concerns about the text.

“Our best guidance to folks is, again, if you’re getting these concerning or questionable contacts from third-party groups, I wouldn’t trust that information, I would go right to the official source – I’d call your election official,” Wolfe said. “And of course, if a voter feels like something that they’ve received constitutes as voter intimidation, they should also report it to their law enforcement as well, so that they can look into it.”

Free Speech for the People and the League’s letter on Tuesday specifically asks for law enforcement authorities to identify who sent the text and investigate it further.

The organizations said they haven’t heard back yet from the authorities they wrote to seeking help, and the Wisconsin attorney general’s office didn’t immediately respond to an inquiry from CNN.

“We want a larger investigative engine than any of our little nonprofits to figure out who is behind this text message,” Debra Cronmiller, president of the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin, told CNN on Tuesday.

She said the text message is the type of intimidation tactic her organization had envisioned could happen this election cycle — though significant situations of widespread voter intimidation in the past have been spread more often via robocall or AI-generated voice recordings.
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I went to UW-Madison While I was there most students voted in Madison-not their home town Even got a young "radical " mayor elected . Turns out he was the most successful mayor ever in Madison
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