2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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“… the strongest conservative case for voting for Harris doesn’t have nearly as much to do with her as it has to do with her opponent. Trump remains a far more fundamental threat to conservatism than Harris. Trump has, in a way no Democrat ever could, changed the GOP from within and broken with the most important tenets of conservatism. That’s no surprise, because his desire isn’t to conserve; it is to burn things to the ground. In that respect and others, Trump is temperamentally much more of a Jacobin than a Burkean. He has transformed the Republican Party in his image in ways that exceed what any other American politician has done in modern times.

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Yet for a decade now, Republicans, and in particular white evangelicals, have celebrated as their leader a felon and pathological liar; a person whose companies have committed bank, insurance, tax, and charity fraud; a sexual predator who paid hush money to a porn star; a person of uncommon cruelty and crudity who has mocked the war dead, POWs, Gold Star families, and people with disabilities. Under Trump, the party of “family values” has become a moral freak show.

Trump has also profoundly reshaped the GOP’s public policy. The GOP is now, at the national level, effectively pro-choice, and, due in part to Trump, the pro-life movement is “in a state of political collapse,” in the words of David French, of The New York Times. The Republican Party, pre-Trump, was pro–free trade; Trump calls himself “Tariff Man” and referred to tariff as “the most beautiful word in the dictionary.” (In July, Trump proposed across-the-board tariffs of 10 to 20 percent, and rates of 60 percent or higher on imports from China.) He epitomizes crony capitalism, an economic system in which individuals and businesses with political connections and influence are favored.

… Trump believes American national identity is based not on allegiance to certain ideals but on ethnic and religious background.

It is in foreign policy, though, that Trump may be most antithetical to the policies and approach of modern conservatism.

… Trump is fundamentally a populist and a demagogue, a destroyer of institutions and a conspiracy theorist, a champion of right-wing identity politics who stokes grievances and rage. He has an unprecedented capacity to turn people into the darkest versions of themselves. But he is something even beyond that.

… Trump’s supporters may be enraged by the fascist label, but they cannot erase the words or the deeds of the man to whom the label applies. And the only way for the GOP to become a sane, conservative party again is by ridding itself of Trump, which is why even conservatives who oppose Harris’s policies should vote for her. Harris’s election is the only thing that can break the hold of Trump on his party.

Acquaintances of mine, and acquaintances of friends of mine, say that they find Trump contemptible, but that they can’t vote for Harris, because they disagree with her on policy. My response is simple: The position she once held on fracking may be bad, but fascism is worse. The position she holds on any issue may be bad, but fascism is worse.“
 
superrific said:
Withdrawing an ad buy doesn't make sense. Even if Kamala has no money left (unlikely), campaigns go into debt. She is not spending time in NC if she's not spending money.

I looked at the details on that. I don't really know how to read ad buy reports any more (used to work in media buying . . . around the turn of the century), but it looked to me that she was maybe pulling ads from 7 out of 54 markets (maybe is a key word). So perhaps she is reallocating the spend. It's also possible that campaigns overbook and then withdraw a bunch when they aren't needed or useful (there is such a thing as ad overload).

Anyway, the Trump campaign manager was suggesting that she's withdrawing the money to focus on Virginia, which is so laughably false that it makes me think that the whole "ad buy withdrawn" is just nonsense. It's also yet another "would they be saying that if they were winning?" moment.
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I expect the reallocation of ad-spending dollars is most likely; and, as you said, no way is the Harris Campaign shifting spending to Virginia.
 
nycfan said:
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Brings to mind Lorena Bobbitt …
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This another revolting aspect of MAGA - that somehow Trump is protecting an assault on manhood or masculinity. These MAGA Robert Bly figures spew such revanchist ideals of what it means to be a man. Trump is your ideal of manhood? I guess so. Never admit you are wrong. Never apologize. Always look to screw over the next person. Always expect women to bow down to you. Lie about your exploits. Pretend to be tough while always playing the victim.
Awful stuff.
 
Macksbrownies said:
I’d like to think Durham will play a part in this as well as the number of eligible voters increased by 7-8k since 2020 per the Durham BOE site.
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Indeed Research Triangle or the Triad plays a roll too… but not as much as Char-Meck. NC goes as Char- Meck goes.
Unfortunately in 2020, they didn’t show and NC went Trump for the 2nd time in a row.
Char-Meck needs to get out and vote. Period.
 
nycfan said:
Interesting closing argument, I’ll give him that



“… Musk’s remarks, shared in a Telephone Town Hall organized by his America PAC, indicate that he and Trump see economic pain to average Americans as a necessary cost of their policy goals.

“We have to reduce spending to live within our means. And that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity,” Musk stated in the call, fully endorsing the strain Trump’s policies would place on Americans.

Musk’s words make it clear that the disruption is not an unintended side effect but an accepted—if not desired—outcome. The billionaire went further by responding to an X (formerly Twitter) user who anticipated a market downturn if Trump’s aggressive policies, including mass deportations and extreme deficit cuts, were enacted. The user predicted that with Trump and Musk in charge, the U.S. economy—dependent on debt and vulnerable to asset bubbles—would face a severe reaction before stabilizing under the intended austerity.

Musk’s response was a simple acknowledgment: “Sounds about right.” …”
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This is basically what Herbert Hoover and his rich buddies were saying in 1932:
“No one knew how to combat the Great Depression, but certain wealthy Americans were sure they knew what had caused it. The problem, they said, was that poor Americans refused to work hard enough and were draining the economy. They must be forced to take less. “Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, liquidate real estate,” Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon told President Herbert Hoover. “It will purge the rottenness out of the system. High costs of living and high living will come down. People will work harder, live a more moral life. Values will be adjusted, and enterprising people will pick up the wrecks from less competent people.”

“Slash government spending, agreed the Chicago Tribune: lay off teachers and government workers, and demand that those who remain accept lower wages. Richard Whitney, a former president of the Stock Exchange, told the Senate that the only way to restart the economy was to cut government salaries and veterans’ benefits (although he told them that his own salary—which at sixty thousand dollars was six times higher than theirs—was “very little” and couldn’t be reduced).”
 
unc879 said:
She didn't have a choice if she wants to run in '28. She had to endorse him or MAGA would have ruined her. Doesn't make it right.
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Maybe if all of the Republicans who are secretly anti-Trump but won’t say so for the sake of their careers actually spoke up during his presidency, we wouldn’t be where we are.

Sure, many of them would have been primaries by MAGAs, but the movement as a whole wouldn’t have the sway it currently does.
 
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