Ok that's good. We have a lot at stake.
So not bad for today. Probably got more early votes than 2016 and might get an evening “rush” when people get off work.
If we just had a not insane republican, we would be nervous but not "omg it's all going to end"
Yes, but I also think it's pretty clear that Trump getting elected in 2016 shook many liberals to their core and created the dread that many people now feel. And we're now on our second presidential election since 2016 where the fear of Trump winning again is a waking nightmare.
I don't think it would be near as bad if he himself wasn't the candidate
Well, yeah. I'm not saying that it would be the same if the GOP had a different candidate. The whole point is that Trump shocked everybody (including probably himself) in 2016, and now here we are eight years later and he's still in the running for another term, and it's the lingering shock of him actually winning - and that enough Americans actually thought he was qualified in any way for the office - that created the trauma and anxiety that we're seeing. He's like a bad dream that just won't go away.
I doubt it.
When you hear stuff like that, it really makes you appreciate how far Americans have come with LGBTQ rights in recent decades.
They’re going to try to convince you that the 2028 nominee, literally whoever it is, is worse than Trump.
You've done the same with Kamala..
It depends on where Republicans go from Trump. If Republicans steer towards the center and traditional conservative values, I don't think anyone will say that. If they steer deeper into MAGA waters, then that may well be true.
You mean to say that if the Republicans nominate someone who has the open and unabashed support of literal Nazis, people might say that that nominee is as bad or worse than Trump!?!?
While I see the point you're making and agree, it's also interesting to note that the long-term reply to that question by Pubs would be "Yes".
