2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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I don't know where to put this tweet but I'm so excited about it I'm throwing it in here because this is the kind of stuff that an administration should do for the citizens of our country and hopefully Kamala will continue down that path. Trump would make it so banks could reach through the phone and slap you in the face.



 
lawtig02 said:
1. The legislature has never been less powerful in this country. You can thank the SCOTUS conservatives for that.

2. Trump rolled out Schedule F when he did because he was tired of getting hampered by people in the administrative state and he thought he would roll Joe in 2020. What do you think he will do if he wins in November?

3. Trump’s own administration said Schedule F could let him fire at least 50,000 civil servants, but he didn’t think he would need to do so because once he fired several thousand, the rest would fall in line.

I used to share your belief that our system would not allow a president to become a king. That seems obviously false to me now. If the system didn’t prevent a domestic terrorist like Trump from becoming the candidate again for one of our two major parties, it will not stop him from doing what he wants if he regains power.
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Where did you hear #3? Link?
 


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If I listen to your lies, would you say
I'm a man (a man) without conviction
I'm a man (a man) who doesn't know
How to sell (to sell) a contradiction
You come and go, you come and go
 
ZenMode said:
Where did you hear #3? Link?
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/28/trump-plan-omb-schedule-f-nteu/

Trump’s order in 2020 was supposed to be limited in scope, only applying to employees “in positions of a confidential, policy-determining, policy-making, or policy-advocating character” — a category projected to affect about 50,000 workers.

But one agency’s documents, obtained from a Freedom of Information Act request by the National Treasury Employees Union (NTEU), indicate that in fact the Trump administration’s plans were far bigger.

At its annual legislative conference Tuesday, NTEU released more than 200 pages of records it obtained demonstrating how Russell Vought, Trump’s Office of Management and Budget (OMB) director, planned to include a huge swath of his agency’s workforce in the order.

Vought “absurdly stretched the definition of policy work to cover the vast majority of the OMB workforce, from attorneys to GS-09 assistants and specialists who have nothing to do with setting government policy,” NTEU said in a statement.
 
Trump has shared this video before (like a year or so ago?) with a musty Albert Guest poem that is read to sound a bit like Boris Karloff reading How The Grinch Stole Christmas 🎅



Meanwhile, by using old clips of Trump statements and speeches this one (unintentionally, I assume) emphasizes how old he looks and sounds now, IMO.

 
Rock said:
I don't know where to put this tweet but I'm so excited about it I'm throwing it in here because this is the kind of stuff that an administration should do for the citizens of our country and hopefully Kamala will continue down that path. Trump would make it so banks could reach through the phone and slap you in the face.



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If I were king I would mandate that every government office and every place of business be required to have a real live person answer the phone
 
"... At precisely the moment when Trump needs to elevate his performance, to the degree that such a thing is even possible, he’s gone back to his most natural state: erratic, crazed, transgressive, self-indulgent, and enraged. One by-product of this is that Trump has provided no coherent or focused line of attack on Harris. His criticisms are not just vile, but witless. The prospect of not just being beaten, but being beaten by a woman of color, has sent Trump into a frenzy in a way almost nothing else could.

That the Democratic Party was rejuvenated by Biden’s withdrawal is hardly surprising. But very few people anticipated how skilled Harris has been as a presidential candidate.

It’s not simply that she’s made few missteps so far, which is itself impressive. It’s that she’s hit all the right notes, projected self-assurance, and framed the race in just the way she wants: In contrast with Trump, she is future-oriented, a change agent, at ease and joyful.

... Something else, and something quite important, has changed. The whole landscape of the campaign has been transformed. The rise of Harris instantly cast Trump in a new light. He formerly seemed more ominous and threatening, which, whatever its political drawbacks, signaled strength; now he seems not just old but low-energy, stale, even pathetic. He has become the political version of Fat Elvis.

Trump is much better equipped psychologically to withstand ferocious criticisms than he is equipped to withstand mockery. Malignant narcissists go to great lengths to hide their fears and display a false or idealized self. Criticism targets the persona. Mockery, by contrast, can tap very deep fears of being exposed as flawed or weak. When the mask is the target, people with Trump’s psychological profile know how to fight back. Mockery, though, can cause them to unravel. ..."
 
nycfan said:
"... At precisely the moment when Trump needs to elevate his performance, to the degree that such a thing is even possible, he’s gone back to his most natural state: erratic, crazed, transgressive, self-indulgent, and enraged. One by-product of this is that Trump has provided no coherent or focused line of attack on Harris. His criticisms are not just vile, but witless. The prospect of not just being beaten, but being beaten by a woman of color, has sent Trump into a frenzy in a way almost nothing else could.

That the Democratic Party was rejuvenated by Biden’s withdrawal is hardly surprising. But very few people anticipated how skilled Harris has been as a presidential candidate.

It’s not simply that she’s made few missteps so far, which is itself impressive. It’s that she’s hit all the right notes, projected self-assurance, and framed the race in just the way she wants: In contrast with Trump, she is future-oriented, a change agent, at ease and joyful.

... Something else, and something quite important, has changed. The whole landscape of the campaign has been transformed. The rise of Harris instantly cast Trump in a new light. He formerly seemed more ominous and threatening, which, whatever its political drawbacks, signaled strength; now he seems not just old but low-energy, stale, even pathetic. He has become the political version of Fat Elvis.

Trump is much better equipped psychologically to withstand ferocious criticisms than he is equipped to withstand mockery. Malignant narcissists go to great lengths to hide their fears and display a false or idealized self. Criticism targets the persona. Mockery, by contrast, can tap very deep fears of being exposed as flawed or weak. When the mask is the target, people with Trump’s psychological profile know how to fight back. Mockery, though, can cause them to unravel. ..."
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That Fat Elvis thing has legs. Maybe not for Kamala and Tim, but for their social media partners. That could be a meme that drives Trump over the edge.
 
During softball sessions on Fox, Hannity/Ingraham/etc actively try to steer Trump away from trouble and towards the correct response. Is Elon ready for that part of the job?
 
Rock said:
I don't know where to put this tweet but I'm so excited about it I'm throwing it in here because this is the kind of stuff that an administration should do for the citizens of our country and hopefully Kamala will continue down that path. Trump would make it so banks could reach through the phone and slap you in the face.



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YES!!!!! this is seriously needed.

we are all absolutely effing SICK AND TIRED of shelling out boatloads of money to banks/utilities/health insurers/etc/etc and not being able to speak with an actual human to get help when problems inevitably arise.

it goes well beyond poor customer service. it is predatory BS. they don't give a crap if whatever they're selling you doesn't work or isn't serving you properly.
 
ZenMode said:
You have to wonder why he made that change at the end of his first term and not the beginning.

Trump clearly likes blind loyalty and "yes" men. Beyond the people who Presidents currently appoint, how many "career officials with a political advisory role" do you think there are? I honestly have no idea, but I can't imagine there's a lot when you consider the hundreds of thousands of federal employees that exist.

The system is designed so Presidents can't be Kings. Trump can surround himself with all the yes men he wants and they can hatch all kinds of stupid ideas, but true country-ending change would have to come into existence via legislation. Legislation can only come from Congress.
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Democracies often backslide into autocracies. Obviously, we have 230 years of precedent and culture to maintain democracy, but the system is not infallible. With a sufficiently compliant supreme court, a president could declare martial law and suspend the constitution. I think the odds of that actually happening are very low, but they aren't 0% either.
 
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