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2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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“pulling the ‘rip-cord’” doesn’t sound like something Trump would say, TBH, but the random quotes seem like him.



[probably not written by Trump but angling for votes in Virginia maybe?]


 
nycfan said:
Interesting closing argument, I’ll give him that



“… Musk’s remarks, shared in a Telephone Town Hall organized by his America PAC, indicate that he and Trump see economic pain to average Americans as a necessary cost of their policy goals.

“We have to reduce spending to live within our means. And that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity,” Musk stated in the call, fully endorsing the strain Trump’s policies would place on Americans.

Musk’s words make it clear that the disruption is not an unintended side effect but an accepted—if not desired—outcome. The billionaire went further by responding to an X (formerly Twitter) user who anticipated a market downturn if Trump’s aggressive policies, including mass deportations and extreme deficit cuts, were enacted. The user predicted that with Trump and Musk in charge, the U.S. economy—dependent on debt and vulnerable to asset bubbles—would face a severe reaction before stabilizing under the intended austerity.

Musk’s response was a simple acknowledgment: “Sounds about right.” …”
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And he doesn’t care because he won’t be affected.
 
Macksbrownies said:
115,000 Puerto Ricans living in NC.
Map shows Puerto Rican population in every state
ETA Oops! Misread your post and missed”withdrew”. Still, something to consider.
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Withdrawing an ad buy doesn't make sense. Even if Kamala has no money left (unlikely), campaigns go into debt. She is not spending time in NC if she's not spending money.

I looked at the details on that. I don't really know how to read ad buy reports any more (used to work in media buying . . . around the turn of the century), but it looked to me that she was maybe pulling ads from 7 out of 54 markets (maybe is a key word). So perhaps she is reallocating the spend. It's also possible that campaigns overbook and then withdraw a bunch when they aren't needed or useful (there is such a thing as ad overload).

Anyway, the Trump campaign manager was suggesting that she's withdrawing the money to focus on Virginia, which is so laughably false that it makes me think that the whole "ad buy withdrawn" is just nonsense. It's also yet another "would they be saying that if they were winning?" moment.
 


“… the strongest conservative case for voting for Harris doesn’t have nearly as much to do with her as it has to do with her opponent. Trump remains a far more fundamental threat to conservatism than Harris. Trump has, in a way no Democrat ever could, changed the GOP from within and broken with the most important tenets of conservatism. That’s no surprise, because his desire isn’t to conserve; it is to burn things to the ground. In that respect and others, Trump is temperamentally much more of a Jacobin than a Burkean. He has transformed the Republican Party in his image in ways that exceed what any other American politician has done in modern times.

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Yet for a decade now, Republicans, and in particular white evangelicals, have celebrated as their leader a felon and pathological liar; a person whose companies have committed bank, insurance, tax, and charity fraud; a sexual predator who paid hush money to a porn star; a person of uncommon cruelty and crudity who has mocked the war dead, POWs, Gold Star families, and people with disabilities. Under Trump, the party of “family values” has become a moral freak show.

Trump has also profoundly reshaped the GOP’s public policy. The GOP is now, at the national level, effectively pro-choice, and, due in part to Trump, the pro-life movement is “in a state of political collapse,” in the words of David French, of The New York Times. The Republican Party, pre-Trump, was pro–free trade; Trump calls himself “Tariff Man” and referred to tariff as “the most beautiful word in the dictionary.” (In July, Trump proposed across-the-board tariffs of 10 to 20 percent, and rates of 60 percent or higher on imports from China.) He epitomizes crony capitalism, an economic system in which individuals and businesses with political connections and influence are favored.

… Trump believes American national identity is based not on allegiance to certain ideals but on ethnic and religious background.

It is in foreign policy, though, that Trump may be most antithetical to the policies and approach of modern conservatism.

… Trump is fundamentally a populist and a demagogue, a destroyer of institutions and a conspiracy theorist, a champion of right-wing identity politics who stokes grievances and rage. He has an unprecedented capacity to turn people into the darkest versions of themselves. But he is something even beyond that.

… Trump’s supporters may be enraged by the fascist label, but they cannot erase the words or the deeds of the man to whom the label applies. And the only way for the GOP to become a sane, conservative party again is by ridding itself of Trump, which is why even conservatives who oppose Harris’s policies should vote for her. Harris’s election is the only thing that can break the hold of Trump on his party.

Acquaintances of mine, and acquaintances of friends of mine, say that they find Trump contemptible, but that they can’t vote for Harris, because they disagree with her on policy. My response is simple: The position she once held on fracking may be bad, but fascism is worse. The position she holds on any issue may be bad, but fascism is worse.“
 
superrific said:
Withdrawing an ad buy doesn't make sense. Even if Kamala has no money left (unlikely), campaigns go into debt. She is not spending time in NC if she's not spending money.

I looked at the details on that. I don't really know how to read ad buy reports any more (used to work in media buying . . . around the turn of the century), but it looked to me that she was maybe pulling ads from 7 out of 54 markets (maybe is a key word). So perhaps she is reallocating the spend. It's also possible that campaigns overbook and then withdraw a bunch when they aren't needed or useful (there is such a thing as ad overload).

Anyway, the Trump campaign manager was suggesting that she's withdrawing the money to focus on Virginia, which is so laughably false that it makes me think that the whole "ad buy withdrawn" is just nonsense. It's also yet another "would they be saying that if they were winning?" moment.
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I expect the reallocation of ad-spending dollars is most likely; and, as you said, no way is the Harris Campaign shifting spending to Virginia.
 
nycfan said:
truthsocial.com

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

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Brings to mind Lorena Bobbitt …
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This another revolting aspect of MAGA - that somehow Trump is protecting an assault on manhood or masculinity. These MAGA Robert Bly figures spew such revanchist ideals of what it means to be a man. Trump is your ideal of manhood? I guess so. Never admit you are wrong. Never apologize. Always look to screw over the next person. Always expect women to bow down to you. Lie about your exploits. Pretend to be tough while always playing the victim.
Awful stuff.
 
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