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2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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Yesterday, I contacted my connect for some...let us loosely say, "accoutrements" for the upcoming election week and he said he could hopefully get them to me sometime Monday. I was like, "Monday? Usually you're like FedEx." Apparently many people are....*ahem*...stocking up in more ways than one, and supplies are short.

I love a good accoutrement.
 
Yesterday, I contacted my connect for some...let us loosely say, "accoutrements" for the upcoming election week and he said he could hopefully get them to me sometime Monday. I was like, "Monday? Usually you're like FedEx." Apparently many people are....*ahem*...stocking up in more ways than one, and supplies are short.
It's odd living in a place where the government literally sells it to read how people have to purchase it elsewhere.
 
Sure. I’ve lived here pretty much the whole time you’ve been gone, and am just relaying what I know to be true, in my considerable experience. I have a bunch of Dominican and Puerto Rican friends I hooped with for years at P.S. 19 (aka Roberto Clemente Junior High) in the heart of Puerto Rican South Williamsburg, BK. Two weeks ago I went on a murals tour of Spanish Harlem that featured political murals from the Young Lords to present day. The island that contains the Dominican Republic is called Hispaniola (a name with a direct link to the colonizers). And it’s right around the corner from PR. Incidentally, I also know that if you want to annoy a Dominican or Puerto Rican, call him Spanish. Which is what a lot of native white New Yorkers do. “Get up on that Spanish kid, he can shoot.” “Let’s go get some Spanish food.” Etc. They don’t love that, understandably.

But I have no desire to get further into one of your endless contrarian pissing matches, so knock yourself out thinking what you want. Which is, “I know everything.”
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Sure. I’ve lived here pretty much the whole time you’ve been gone, and am just relaying what I know to be true, in my considerable experience. I have a bunch of Dominican and Puerto Rican friends I hooped with for years at P.S. 19 (aka Roberto Clemente Junior High) in the heart of Puerto Rican South Williamsburg, BK. Two weeks ago I went on a murals tour of Spanish Harlem that featured political murals from the Young Lords to present day. The island that contains the Dominican Republic is called Hispaniola (a name with a direct link to the colonizers). And it’s right around the corner from PR. Incidentally, I also know that if you want to annoy a Dominican or Puerto Rican, call him Spanish. Which is what a lot of native white New Yorkers do. “Get up on that Spanish kid, he can shoot.” “Let’s go get some Spanish food.” Etc. They don’t love that, understandably.

But I have no desire to get further into one of your endless contrarian pissing matches, so knock yourself out thinking what you want. Which is, “I know everything.”
Me? I'm the one who knows everything? You're the one who claimed that almost everybody in New York would say Hispanic, which is preposterous. I'm not the one making a strong claim. I'm saying that at least some Latinos in New York describe themselves as Latinos. Like the door staff to my apartment building. Personally, I've never heard Hispanic in NYC but I never played ball in south Williamsburg. I'm not claiming that everyone in the city does it one way, especially when the most famous Latinas from NYC (e.g. Sonia, AOC) call themselves Latinas as a matter of public record.

Whatever. If you think I'm just being contrarian, by pointing out that your extremely strong claim does not comport with my personal experience, then maybe you ought to look up what contrarian means. Or maybe don't post on a message board.

BTW, maybe you were posting that for the benefit of other posters, but the idea that I'm unfamiliar with Hispaniola -- I mean, seriously?
 
Me? I'm the one who knows everything? You're the one who claimed that almost everybody in New York would say Hispanic, which is preposterous. I'm not the one making a strong claim. I'm saying that at least some Latinos in New York describe themselves as Latinos. Like the door staff to my apartment building. Personally, I've never heard Hispanic in NYC but I never played ball in south Williamsburg. I'm not claiming that everyone in the city does it one way, especially when the most famous Latinas from NYC (e.g. Sonia, AOC) call themselves Latinas as a matter of public record.

Whatever. If you think I'm just being contrarian, by pointing out that your extremely strong claim does not comport with my personal experience, then maybe you ought to look up what contrarian means. Or maybe don't post on a message board.

BTW, maybe you were posting that for the benefit of other posters, but the idea that I'm unfamiliar with Hispaniola -- I mean, seriously?
You’re floundering. I never claimed “all,” I said either “most” or “almost all.” Which you recognized at first, before you just started making things up:

“You're the one who claimed that almost everybody in New York would say Hispanic, which is preposterous.”

Then you said:
“I'm saying that at least some Latinos in New York describe themselves as Latinos.”
Which is the same thing implied by my using “most” or “almost all.”

Then you said:
“I'm not claiming that everyone in the city does it one way.”
Yeah, me either. Duh.

And as for Sotomayor (and Latino USA), I already addressed that.

Curious — have you ever admitted you were wrong? Or that you *might* be wrong?
 


“Former President Bill Clinton encouraged voters in Michigan to throw their support behind Vice President Kamala Harris even if they believe the economy was better under former President Donald Trump.

"I want to make three brief points," Clinton told voters at a rally for Harris in Muskegon Heights, Michigan on Wednesday. "You did pretty well when I was president, and I think I’m entitled to my opinion about who’d be better. Two, I don’t think it’s right to say that people have to vote for Donald Trump because the economy was better… I don’t believe that." …”



OR:

Clinton also chided Trump for promoting himself as the better candidate for the economy. He ribbed Trump for taking credit an economy built by his predecessor former President Barack Obama and for blaming current President Joe Biden for inflation caused by the COVID-19 pandemic supply chain issues.

“He’s the best credit-claimer I’ve ever seen,” Clinton said of Trump. “‘The sun rose this morning, I did that. But it rained yesterday. If I had been president it never would have rained.’ You’ve got to give it to the guy, he’s really good at this.”

 
I just recall so many celeb endorsements and gatherings for Hillary in 2016, that I just don't want a repeat of that. It feels awfully similar, so someone walk me back on that thinking.
 
If someone walks into a voting booth and makes stool therein, will that be interpreted as a vote for Trump?

ChatGPT said:​


Making stool in a voting booth probably wouldn't be counted as a vote at all; it would more likely be handled as a public disturbance. While it might leave an unintended "statement," actual votes require filling out and submitting a ballot in accordance with voting procedures.
In other words, if you take a Trump in the voting booth, is it considered a vote for Trump? Hmm.
 
I just recall so many celeb endorsements and gatherings for Hillary in 2016, that I just don't want a repeat of that. It feels awfully similar, so someone walk me back on that thinking.
Definitely. For whatever reason, the one where they had all of the Avengers finishing with Robert Downey Jr. gives me PTSD towards the celeb endorsements.
 
I just recall so many celeb endorsements and gatherings for Hillary in 2016, that I just don't want a repeat of that. It feels awfully similar, so someone walk me back on that thinking.
HRC's celeb endorsements were not why she lost the election. Totally unrelated. She lost because, as Nate Silver said the day after the election, nobody foresaw that white working class people were going to vote like a minority group. The state polls were all off. She didn't know where she was trailing.

Also, Trump was seen as the moderate in that race, not the extremist.

The elections are not alike
 
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