and away we go. CDC vaccine committee canceled

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ZenMode said:
In a case where there is truly a threat on the mother's life, I'd agree, but that is not how many Democrats view it. Labeling all abortion as "healthcare" is very much subjective, not objective.
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Personally, I normally seek healthcare before my life is truly in danger, but that's just me.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I took kind of a similar journey except the exact opposite. I was a much more hardcore liberal. All the Doom and gloom on the old ZZL got to me. And then you realize that it never happens. All those things that were going to happen during Trump's first term, nothing of substance happened except for a big tax cut for wealthy people and an extra conservative on the Supreme Court. That's a big deal, but it's not the same as Trump starting nuclear Armageddon which was bandied about at the time.

And we're hearing the same thing this time around: Trump is a dictator. Trump is a Nazi. Trump is never going to have another election. Trump is a Russian mole.

I have a feeling that once again, nothing substantial is going to happen except for a big tax cut for rich people. The GOP will get slaughtered in the midterms and we will have a new president in 2028, probably a Democrat. Cycle repeats.
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Wanna bet? I'll place $1000 on the midterms. Trump already said he is confident of conservatives winning the midterms in a landslide. Why do you think that is? Use your brain. It's hilarious the ZZL turned you from a hardcore liberal to a dumb rube. Like smart people somehow made you miraculously stupid.
 
Shenanigans said:
Wanna bet? I'll place $1000 on the midterms. Trump already said he is confident of conservatives winning the midterms in a landslide. Why do you think that is? Use your brain. It's hilarious the ZZL turned you from a hardcore liberal to a dumb rube. Like smart people somehow made you miraculously stupid.
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Would you expect him to say "You know... I bet Republicans are going to get smoked in mid-terms?"

If anything, he's just setting the stage for more stolen election lies.
 
tarheelbillie said:
No civil war on the immediate horizon. We, as a nation, have become too placid for that. Otherwise, we would be seeing 100,000s in the streets. Jan 6 would look like a preschool picnic compared to the scene at the Capital Building. Instead, we're just lapping up the Kool-Aid while the "termite queen like" President pumps out illegal executive orders. We, as a nation, have f'ed ourselves.
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It is on the horizon. Their efforts to hurt liberals will inevitably affect all the poor rubes. It might be a year or two, but gutting the middle class, and taking away the only safety nets from the poor, will cause mass chaos. People won't even know who they are fighting, but they will be ready to fight, mark my words. We will accomplish little, but I 100% know that I will take a shit on very specific redneck faces during the chaos. I know who they are, therefore plans are in the works.

Fuck the MAGAts!
 
ZenMode said:
Would you expect him to say "You know... I bet Republicans are going to get smoked in mid-terms?"

If anything, he's just setting the stage for more stolen election lies.
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You mentioning stolen election lies, yet stumping incessantly for those same disgusting people, makes me want to shit on your face exponentially more. Do you get it yet?
 
Shenanigans said:
You mentioning stolen election lies, yet stumping incessantly for those same disgusting people, makes me want to shit on your face exponentially more. Do you get it yet?
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I mentioned Trump, not some ambiguous "people", and I defy you to find one good thing I've said about Trump as a person.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
they really do and thats coming from someone as impartial as it gets. the truth hurts indeed
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You are not impartial. You are stupid. I hope this clarification helps.

Do you want to know why you are not impartial? I'll tell you. You have not legitimately called out right wing actions for many years. Probably your entire life. Yet you whine like a little pussy ass bitch when the left is calling out actual fascists and dictators.

The right is legitimately fucking up any middle ground, right now, yet you have a problem with progressives. Call out what is happening in real-time, you fake impartial twat.

I would guess you are basically a trumper who likes shitty weed. You probably have a gay friend who you try to explain in detail why the the GOP doesn't hate them.

You are many things. Very stupid, unapologetically disgusting, and certainly useless. But impartial, I don't think so.
 
Milk and Cookies said:
Not at the suspension of bodily autonomy. If your neighbor is dying of kidney failure they're not allowed to strap you down and take your kidney. This is very basic stuff and I'm not in the mood to chase your trolling around.
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How would you compare the mother/child's life situation to holding someone down and stealing their kidney?
 
ZenMode said:
That is probably the biggest difference between me and many of the liberal posters here (and conservative posters on other sites). I don't share in the panic and overreaction. Life and the country will go on.

I've said previously that I was a hardcore right winger many years ago. I sat in my car at lunch and listened to Hannity and Rush. I watched Fox News and truly believed that the "country was ending" if we didn't stop Obama from being elected.... and then the country was going to end if we didn't stop Obama from being re-elected.... (but I though it was supposed to have already ended in his first term?)

There are things I'm more concerned about than others, of course.

As it relates to flu vaccine meeting.... who cares? They might as well throw a dart. They suck a picking the right vax anyway.

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And I hear all of that. But the issue here is that those within the Trump presidency are trying to circumvent the "balance of powers" in a way that previous presidents, including during Trump's first term, simply did not.
 
ZenMode said:
I mentioned Trump, not some ambiguous "people", and I defy you to find one good thing I've said about Trump as a person.
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You say nothing about Trump. You try to call out the left for overreacting to to what is clearly 100% happening. A conservative dictatorship.

I'll bet you $1000 that the right "wins" the midterms. You'll just be too obtuse to understand why.
 
ZenMode said:
How would you compare the mother/child's life situation to holding someone down and stealing their kidney?
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How is this comment remotely connected to the topic of the cancellation of the CDC Vaccine Committee?

One might think that you are intentionally deflecting from the topic at hand by raising tangential issues. But that would mean one would accuse you of bad faith, an allegation which I would never consider making unless your life truly was in danger...
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I'm saying that storming the Congress was terrible and those knuckleheads never had a chance of overturning the election. So your assertion that storming Congress was somehow the precursor to ending democracy is just another one of those Doom and gloom scenarios that I was talking about.
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What would have happened if the insurrectionists had been just a little more successful?
 
I’ve always thought attempting to overthrow an election was only slightly less awful than being successful.
If I’m ever on trial for attempted murder, I guess I hope some Trumpers are on the jury.
 
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