and away we go. CDC vaccine committee canceled

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Sure, but don't we also protect all human life?
Apparently not, considering the women that die because of this decision of the people who are going to find it harder to get vaccines.

It's also not clear when life begins and when it should be protected. It's not like it's still a vital interest of the state when individuals made up virtually all the elements of defense and labor. The state had a vested interest. Fwiw, the Bible says that the age an infant is treated as a human is at one month.
 
Apparently not, considering the women that die because of this decision of the people who are going to find it harder to get vaccines.

It's also not clear when life begins and when it should be protected. It's not like it's still a vital interest of the state when individuals made up virtually all the elements of defense and labor. The state had a vested interest. Fwiw, the Bible says that the age an infant is treated as a human is at one month.
"It's also not clear when life begins and when it should be protected."

Which is precisely my point and why it's not "objectively" bad, as was claimed, that Roe was overturned.
 
Yep. The belief that a bunch of MAGA yahoos was going be able to permanently keep Trump in /Biden out is laughable.
You are so hellbent on calling out a belief, one that most of us watched horrifically in real time and saw as a real threat, instead of calling out the violent rednecks who were very clearly a threat.

Boside better, or shut the fuck up. Do you know how to not be a nuisance to everyone who knows you?
 
"It's also not clear when life begins and when it should be protected."

Which is precisely my point and why it's not "objectively" bad, as was claimed, that Roe was overturned.
But that's a terrible point to stand on. Why should the state get to interfere without positive proof of harm? What is their status to interfere at all?
 
But that's a terrible point to stand on. Why should the state get to interfere without positive proof of harm? What is their status to interfere at all?
If you believe that life begins at conception, or heartbeat or brain activity, wouldn't decades of ended human lives, under Roe, be proof of harm?
 
Yep. The belief that a bunch of MAGA yahoos was going be able to permanently keep Trump in /Biden out is laughable.
You’re ignoring like 99% of Trump’s plan to remain in power. And I believe anyone who thinks they aren’t working right now on how to ensure victory in 2028 is being naive.
 
You are so hellbent on calling out a belief, one that most of us watched horrifically in real time and saw as a real threat, instead of calling out the violent rednecks who were very clearly a threat.

Boside better, or shut the fuck up. Do you know how to not be a nuisance to everyone who knows you?
We are currently talking about the likelihood, which is 0%, that the MAGA morons were going to successfully keep Trump in/Biden out. That is a completely separate topic from any views on the maga morons who were rioting on J6.

I can, and do, believe the J6 rioters should still be in jail, that Trump is an idiot for pardoning them AND, at the same time, know that there was no chance the rioters were going to successfully execute an insurrection. Think about how ridiculous that sounds? Do you really believe, even if they were ALL armed with AR-15's, they were going to be able to permanently stop certification? I mean.. how? You don't think the military was going to come in and turn them all into ground beef?

Come on.....
 
You’re ignoring like 99% of Trump’s plan to remain in power.

Trump is not staying in power in 2028. He's won two terms. That's all you get.
And I believe anyone who thinks they aren’t working right now on how to ensure victory in 2028 is being naive.
Yes, that's what politicians do, unless they are retiring. They work to win.
 
Trump is not staying in power in 2028. He's won two terms. That's all you get. Yes, that's what politicians do, unless they are retiring. They work to win.
They work to try to stay in power. Not to guarantee it. Don’t play dumb, you know what I am saying.
 
We are currently talking about the likelihood, which is 0%, that the MAGA morons were going to successfully keep Trump in/Biden out. That is a completely separate topic from any views on the maga morons who were rioting on J6.

I can, and do, believe the J6 rioters should still be in jail, that Trump is an idiot for pardoning them AND, at the same time, know that there was no chance the rioters were going to successfully execute an insurrection. Think about how ridiculous that sounds? Do you really believe, even if they were ALL armed with AR-15's, they were going to be able to permanently stop certification? I mean.. how? You don't think the military was going to come in and turn them all into ground beef?

Come on.....
You are a MAGA moron, stop separating yourself from them. They are you. And it was substantially higher than 0%, be real once in your life. You are obtuse to a fault.

Call out the violent (it's on video) rednecks, or shut the fuck up about the left trying to have a decent future, despite you, you MAGA moron.
 
Trump is not staying in power in 2028. He's won two terms. That's all you get. Yes, that's what politicians do, unless they are retiring. They work to win.
I'll bet you $1000 that if Trump is alive in 4 years, he will try very hard to stay the President. He is setting this up right now, do you know how he is setting this up? The fact that you are denying this just means you are dumber than I originally thought.

I'm sorry that you have no idea how to watch and assess the world around you.

Maybe just post a picture of your dog?
 
That is probably the biggest difference between me and many of the liberal posters here (and conservative posters on other sites). I don't share in the panic and overreaction. Life and the country will go on.

I've said previously that I was a hardcore right winger many years ago. I sat in my car at lunch and listened to Hannity and Rush. I watched Fox News and truly believed that the "country was ending" if we didn't stop Obama from being elected.... and then the country was going to end if we didn't stop Obama from being re-elected.... (but I though it was supposed to have already ended in his first term?)

There are things I'm more concerned about than others, of course.

As it relates to flu vaccine meeting.... who cares? They might as well throw a dart. They suck a picking the right vax anyway.

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The difference is that in hindsight there was nothing to fear in regards to Obama and Biden being president.
Trump tried to overthrow an election (and I’m not talking about the rioters on Jan 6th). That is reason enough to fear a second term, and we are seeing now in real time why.
 
I'll bet you $1000 that if Trump is alive in 4 years, he will try very hard to stay the President. He is setting this up right now, do you know how he is setting this up? The fact that you are denying this just means you are dumber than I originally thought.

I'm sorry that you have no idea how to watch and assess the world around you.

Maybe just post a picture of your dog?
"I'm sorry that you have no idea how to watch and assess the world around you. "

Think about allllllll the things you believed going into the first Trump term. How many of them came true?
 
If you believe that life begins at conception, or heartbeat or brain activity, wouldn't decades of ended human lives, under Roe, be proof of harm?
people believe a lot of dumb shit. the united states is not supposed to be some sort of theocracy. it is absolute bullshit that right wingers are trying to turn us into one.

science and common sense and legal precedents say that life begins at viability.

fetus/womb is essentially a parasite/host relationship until viability at which time the fetus should be granted more rights. until then, pregnant women must have bodily autonomy.
 
"I'm sorry that you have no idea how to watch and assess the world around you. "

Think about allllllll the things you believed going into the first Trump term. How many of them came true?
I thought maga morons like YOU were stupid during the first Trump term. I was correct.

He had decent checks around him then. Not now, pay attention.

He is currently going after all liberals. Not a problem for you, you are a spineless "libertarian."

He is gutting our aid to the world, our national security, the CIA, FBI, dept of education, social security administration, any welfare to poor folks, NOAA, and eliminating FUCKING ALL checks and hindrances to his power.

And you're just like, this is normal guys.

FUCK YOU! I'm done with you.

The next time you see me, I'll be taking a shit in your mouth, you useless twat.
 
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