Biorhythms for UNC v Michigan State Game, 4:30 Start

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finesse said:
I don't remember Manek ,Lubin or Withers showing that much overall six games into the season. Got to play them some to get them ready for the long haul.
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Manek had 20 in his first game, Withers opened last year starting with a double-double and had 11-9 at Kansas.
 
uncjhodges said:
Manek had 20 in his first game, Withers opened last year starting with a double-double and had 11-9 at Kansas.
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But both were remarkable inconsistent and and took considerably more time to develop. Less an analysis of them than just reminding people that patience really can be a virtue . I only picked them because ,as a more casual fan these days, I remembered that they didn't stand out as a great start overall, not that I remembered exactly what they did do. It's entirely possible I misjudged one or all of the three.
 
uncjhodges said:
Just have always thought it was weird to basically tie your career to evans (who was a CG at Colorado st)
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Evans was always option 6 or 8 or something and we took him after the PGs we really wanted turned us down.

I don't think HD really wanted to Evans to be his PG this year, but you gotta work with who you can get.
 
SnoopRob said:
Evans was always option 6 or 8 or something and we took him after the PGs we really wanted turned us down.

I don't think HD really wanted to Evans to be his PG this year, but you gotta work with who you can get.
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Plus think Evans is a diffident PG with Trimble in the lineup.
 
superrific said:
cadeau is basically exactly the same guy he was, at least according to stats. Fewer assists, a couple of made 3s but he will regress there. He's not the answer.

Evans shot 44% from 3 last season. He's struggling now, but let's see how he's doing in a few weeks.

It's hard to judge too much a game that was played on a skating rink.
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Did Michigan St not play on the same court?
 
uncjhodges said:
cadeau is a much better fit for current personnel than evans imo. Obviously, Cadeau wouldn’t play another year for Hubert and/or Hubert wanted Trimble and the cadeau/trimble backcourt wasn’t a good option so it’s a moot point.
Just have always thought it was weird to basically tie your career to evans (who was a CG at Colorado st) and i think this significantly limits our ceiling.
Willing to forgive the shooting given the lighting in the gym, but we were physically dominated by them
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Cadeau + Luka would be horrible on defense.
 
superrific said:
Cadeau + Luka would be horrible on defense.
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I actually think Luka is fine defensively, he's certainly better than Evans. If you watch him he plays great denial defense and is almost always in the right spots. Evans can't stay in front of his man, gets beat all the time.

Evans was really poor tonight, hopefully he can turn it around. Seems like the staff started to run the offense through Luka in the 2nd, they may be losing faith in Evans.
 
They are still a good team with Wilson, Veesaar, and Luka, and better when Trimble gets back. But the 3 point shooting and lack of contribution from the bench is going to be a problem when they play quality teams like MSU.
 
superrific said:
Yes, but not everyone handles the same conditions the same. It's like in football -- some QBs are good in the snow, and some are not so good.
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Lol quite the apples and oranges comparison.

In any event not having a true PG and nothing in the frontcourt in the bench will be the downfall of this team. Throw in bad shooting nights and it's likely to be another disappointing season.
 
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C-Money said:
They are still a good team with Wilson, Veesaar, and Luka, and better when Trimble gets back. But the 3 point shooting and lack of contribution from the bench is going to be a problem when they play quality teams like MSU.
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Those things could improve. Although, the front court depth is going to be tough
 
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SnoopRob said:
Well, it's a game we can certainly learn from...

- We've got to shoot better from 3, 17% is abysmal.
- We've got to rebound better.
- We've got to stop teams from getting good shots, we gave up so many shots 8' and closer to the basket.
- We've got to figure out some way to manufacture points in the half court.

That was ugly over the 8 minutes. Really, really ugly.

Also, we've got to figure out the backup 5 situation as neither Brown nor High are it. It's almost going to have to be Stevenson and we might as well get to it.
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Have to wait for Trimble to get back for Stevensen to come off the bench. Then again, Stevensen, Wilson, Veesaar, Trimble and Luka are the best 5. The lack of a bench is really going to hurt them against quality teams.
 
Evans was -24 for the game. While that wasn’t the only reason for the loss, it was a big part.
He’s got to make shots because he just doesn’t do enough otherwise. He and Luka missed some wide open 3’s. He had some terrible fouls and TO’s.

Caleb needs to pick his spots. Forced it several times. Overall, I really like this team. UK will be tough without Seth.
 
  • I’m thankful there were no serious injuries playing on that ice skating rink and getting hacked all game by a couple of those thugs.
  • I’m thankful to know Seth will be returning sooner or later because he’s been sorely missed, especially in this game.
  • I’m thankful that watching the film for this game will help the team and coaches realize we can only go 7 deep (with Seth back) and we’re gonna have to go with “iron 5 - type minutes for the most part in most all games from here on out. Example: Brown played 7 minutes… which is about 4 minutes too many.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
The University of North Carolina: Where shooters go to die.

Kyan Evans, 40% last year. Comes to UNC, can’t shoot.

Luka Bogavac: 40% in Euroleague. Comes to UNC, can’t shoot.

Jonathan Powell: 35% last year. Comes to UNC, can’t shoot.

Cade Tyson: Considered the best shooter in last year’s portal. Comes to UNC, can’t shoot. Leaves for Minnesota, suddenly learns to shoot again.

The question has to be asked, what the fuck is Hubert doing to kill the confidence of his perimeter shooters? One of the all-time great shooters doesn’t seem to have a clue how to coach shooting.
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This really is the $64,000 question.
 
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