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SnoopRob said:
He's had moderate success as a HC and shown he can build a program.

You don't need a home run to be better than Hubert, you just need someone who can hit consistent doubles with the chance to stretch them for more. Hubert is looking like a Mendoza Line hitter thus far who can occasionally hit with some power.
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I don’t know about that. You can do a lot worse than what Hubert has done.
 
Bigs23 said:
I don’t know about that. You can do a lot worse than what Hubert has done.
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Sure. But given the inherent advantages of Carolina, you have to think that most coaches who have shown they can be good or better elsewhere can likely do well here.
 
Bigs23 said:
In your opinion.
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I've asked you on numerous occasions and you've yet answered. What are you seeing from HD/staff that gives you faith that they will suddenly figure it out? What specifically are they doing that you applaud. Be specific. You seem to only want to try to shout down those of us who are critical of the job the staff has done, while never championing specifics. So, for once, tell us what you are happy with in their performance and approving of.
 
Bigs23 said:
Maybe, maybe not. It’s a unique environment.
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Eh, it's rare as a top 3 program, but it's not completely unique.

The school, independent of the coach or staff, brings a lot to the table as a college basketball program. The results of the current staff and team(s) must be judged against that standard and with an understanding of what the program itself has going for it. Those are things that enhance whatever a coach and staff bring to the job, it's not a job that largely works against you.

So if a coach can be successful over time at any of dozens of other schools, they should be able to find success at Carolina.
 
SnoopRob said:
Sure. But given the inherent advantages of Carolina, you have to think that most coaches who have shown they can be good or better elsewhere can likely do well here.
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Look at the top 25. The previous inherent advantages are now disadvantages. Not saying that’s a bad thing…
 
ColdBlueSteel said:
Look at the top 25. The previous inherent advantages are now disadvantages. Not saying that’s a bad thing…
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Given that the only schools who are our true peers are 2, 9, & 12, I don't think that cuts the way you believe it does.

I'm not suggesting we should be top 5 every year, but we should absolutely be consistently ranked in the top 25 and a lock to make the NCAAT.
 
SnoopRob said:
He's had moderate success as a HC and shown he can build a program.

You don't need a home run to be better than Hubert, you just need someone who can hit consistent doubles with the chance to stretch them for more. Hubert is looking like a Mendoza Line hitter thus far who can occasionally hit with some power.
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As if it’s all apples to apples. As if covid and NIL and the portal going wild never happened.

It’s all the things that drove Roy out, but apparently he was a “Mendoza Line” coach too in that era. Coaches everywhere are still scrambling to figure this out, and luck has had a lot to do with it. With roster construction and continuity and transfers panning out who were recruited on a very short timeline, all having a lot to do with it. Calipari has been unlucky. Hurley has been lucky. HD has been somewhere in the middle, with a championship game and K’s scalp on his resume.

Show some capacity for perspective for fuck’s sake. You’re a Mendoza Line poster, disrespectful clown. Do better.
 
duluoz said:
As if it’s all apples to apples. As if covid and NIL and the portal going wild never happened.

It’s all the things that drove Roy out, but apparently he was a “Mendoza Line” coach too in that era. Coaches everywhere are still scrambling to figure this out, and luck has had a lot to do with it. With roster construction and continuity and transfers panning out who were recruited on a very short timeline, all having a lot to do with it. Calipari has been unlucky. Hurley has been lucky. HD has been somewhere in the middle, with a championship game and K’s scalp on his resume.

Show some capacity for perspective for fuck’s sake. You’re a Mendoza Line poster, disrespectful clown. Do better.
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Oh, look, the supreme dumbass is back.

I've better things to do than watch you fail to comprehend anything more complicated than 1+1=2 and again have to teach you the meanings of fairly basic words.
 
SnoopRob said:
Oh, look, the supreme dumbass is back.

I've better things to do than watch you fail to comprehend anything more complicated than 1+1=2 and again have to teach you the meanings of fairly basic words.
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Oh I see you tried to beat me to it, by plagiarizing my lines — and yet you still don’t know WTF nepotism means. And continue to accuse Roy and HD of it.

Let’s hear it again, for all to see — is HD an undeserving beneficiary of nepotism by Roy?

“Undeserving” is “redundant” due to the definition of nepotism there by the way, there’s another one for you to look up. Dumbfuck
 
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duluoz said:
Oh I see you tried to beat me to it — you still don’t know WTF nepotism means. And continue to accuse Roy and HD of it.

Let’s hear it again, for all to see — is HD an undeserving beneficiary of nepotism by Roy?

“Undeserving” is “redundant” due to the definition of nepotism there by the way, there’s another one for you to look up. Dumbfuck
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We all get it, you have some weird hard-on for me because you’re too stupid to know the meanings of words.

But I’ve no interest in trying to dumb down an argument again enough that you can begin to try to understand, please put your 2 inches away and move on to something else. Thanks.
 
SnoopRob said:
We all get it, you have some weird hard-on for me because you’re too stupid to know the meanings of words.

But I’ve no interest in trying to dumb down an argument again enough that you can begin to try to understand, please put your 2 inches away and move on to something else. Thanks.
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Wow Freudian much? Phallic fixation and homophobia is never a good look. But it does explain some things.
 
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SnoopRob said:
Eh, it's rare as a top 3 program, but it's not completely unique.

The school, independent of the coach or staff, brings a lot to the table as a college basketball program. The results of the current staff and team(s) must be judged against that standard and with an understanding of what the program itself has going for it. Those are things that enhance whatever a coach and staff bring to the job, it's not a job that largely works against you.

So if a coach can be successful over time at any of dozens of other schools, they should be able to find success at Carolina.
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stankeylegjones said:
I've asked you on numerous occasions and you've yet answered. What are you seeing from HD/staff that gives you faith that they will suddenly figure it out? What specifically are they doing that you applaud. Be specific. You seem to only want to try to shout down those of us who are critical of the job the staff has done, while never championing specifics. So, for once, tell us what you are happy with in their performance and approving of.
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I never said I was happy with the way team has performed this year.
I’m not going to pretend that I know enough to expound on the specifics regarding the X’s and O’s. And in reality all you’ve been repeating ad nauseum is that the players aren’t getting good shots.

I can say that Hubert has done enough as a HC to make me believe he can be successful.
On top of that when I look over at the UNC bench I see Hubert, Lebo, Big Sean, Marcus Paige, Sully, I see UNC basketball. I’m just not going to promote trashing that. If things reach that point Hubert will leave on his own.
 
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finesse said:
How many wide open shots do they have to miss before you accept that the offense isn't as bad as you want to believe?
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They are not missing enough to warrant the offense they are running.

Since no one else wants to answer, I will try you. What things do you see from the staff that you are pleased with and feel that they have done a good job with?
 
ColdBlueSteel said:
Look at the top 25. The previous inherent advantages are now disadvantages. Not saying that’s a bad thing…
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This is a great point that most everyone is missing.

CBB has transformed into something that benefits the slime as we see Hurley , Pearl, Oats, dook basketball, Sampson, Self, the SEC capitalizing.

It’s going to take a minute for coaches and programs who haven’t operated that way to adjust and if and when things settle they will.

In the meantime patience is required unless you’re fine with UNC jumping in that pool of sharks.

Personally I’d rather be guided by character than the pursuit a few more wins.
 
Bigs23 said:
I never said I was happy with the way team has performed this year.
I’m not going to pretend that I know enough to expound on the specifics regarding the X’s and O’s. And in reality all you’ve been repeating ad nauseum is that the players aren’t getting good shot.

I can say that Hubert has done enough as a HC to make me believe he can be successful.
On top of that when I look over at the UNC bench I see Hubert, Lebo, Big Sean, Marcus Paige, Sully, I see UNC basketball. I’m just not going to promote trashing that. If things reach that point Hubert will leave on his own.
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First, no, I have not only said that the players aren’t getting enough good shots. That’s one of many negatives that I, and others, have pointed out. I, and others, have pointed out many other issues as well, on both ends of the court, and on strategy. You say that you don’t know enough about the game to comment on those things, but HD/staff have done enough to convince you that they can be successful. What have you seen from them that convinces you of this?

And, again, pointing out mistakes is not trashing them.

Finally, we all see UNC players on the bench, past and present. The problem is, it’s not carrying over to UNC basketball on the court.
 
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