Did the UCF football game thread get deleted?

In a nutshell, allow me to explain why I am so irritated and annoyed by this whole Belichick situation, beyond the gripes I’ve already made on this thread.

I am annoyed that the University of North Carolina is apparently run by a group of people who always prioritize style over substance. I’m annoyed that after we endured six years of continued mediocrity because we hired an old, out of work football coach who had long ago lost his fastball and was not going to be hired by literally any other school, we then turned around and decided to hire an old, out of work football coach who has long ago lost his fast ball and was not going to be hired by literally any NFL team or any other school. Mack Brown won a national championship, would have won a second one if Colt McCoy hadn’t gotten hurt in the title game against Alabama, and yet – could not get another head football coaching job for five years despite interviewing for several. Bill Belichick won six Super Bowls and could not get the time of day from literally any other NFL franchise. Which is more likely – that UNC was somehow someway going to see something that quite literally no other college or university or professional franchise could see, OR that we are stupid and shortsighted for hiring retread has-beens because we think that a name alone is enough to be able to rekindle that coaches glory years from two decades ago?

I’m annoyed because UNC went for the flash and style over substance, the sizzle over steak, because we are desperate for anyone to pay attention to us in college football. I’m annoyed that politicians got involved with our most recent head football coaching search. I’m annoyed that the political appointments on the board of trustees and in the chancellor‘s office ran their own one man coaching search completely independently of the athletics director. I’m annoyed that we are paying a football coach $10 million per year – double what we were paying Mack Brown!- to currently make John Bunting’s teams look prolific by comparison.

More than anything else, I am annoyed that somehow for some reason the people in charge of leading the university and raising money for the university are apparently so bad at their jobs that the only way that they could convince our benefactors and boosters to pony up money is to go out and hire a name instead of an actual college football coach.

Here is why UNC is always going to suck in football: apparently the only way to get people to give money to support our Football program and to help us compete is to either let them hire their best friend and a golfing buddy (mack Brown) or hire someone famous that they can brag to their other rich buddies at other schools that they could buy (Bill Belichick). If we don’t have donors who are willing to make the same kind of investment that we have just made unless it’s for Bill Belichick, or better yet if we don’t have university leaders or fundraisers who are better able to articulate and sell a vision for significantly stepping up our level of investment for, say, a Matt Campbell or a Jon Sumrall or even a Glenn Schumann- successful, young, *college* coaches- then we are going to continue to toil away in football mediocrity. And we will deserve it.
 
And yes, because I spent four years in college with the University of North Carolina football program, and spent every day of my life in the Kenan Football Center and the locker room and on the practice fields, I can tell you without question it is a distraction for the 18 to 22-year-old males on the team. Trust me on that one, as someone who has been there.
In what way is she distracting, like is it different than the same distraction of hot cheerleaders, hot tutors, hot trainers, etc?
 
In what way is she distracting, like is it different than the same distraction of hot cheerleaders, hot tutors, hot trainers, etc?
To my knowledge, none of our cheerleaders or tutors or trainers are on the cover of Us Weekly this week, or have made us the brunt of every joke by every national college football talking head. These guys don’t exist in a bubble, man. They’re still 18-24 year old college males. They’re all over social media. The get texts from their buddies and friends on other teams. They aren’t just existing in a bubble all day thinking about how to block and tackle better. They know when their head coach doesn’t seem to be taking things as seriously as he once did, because if he was taking things as seriously as he once did, nobody would even know who his girlfriend was, much less would she be on magazine covers and all over social media and prancing around the pregame sidelines dressed in go-go boots and a mini-skirt.
 
That Bill Belichick hired Freddie Kitchens as OC and what else appears to be a so-so staff certainly makes it look like he’s not the “All business, laser-focused” coach of the Patriots’ heyday.
 
From and center of what with respect to blocking and tackling though?

How does her attire effect our blocking and tackling?

How does she distract Freddie Kitchens (or insert any player or coach or support staff ) moreso than any hot cheerleader?

"Our support staff have to deal with endless requests" I don't know what this is referring to, but can you explain it terms of impact on our blocking and tackling, game-prep, scouting, etc?
No, I'm not engaging you seriously in the conversation because you intend to be entirely disingenuous about it based on these kinds of posts.
 
Something tells me that nobody who defends Belichick would have defended Sylvia Hatchell if she had started parading around some roided-up 20 year old dude in nut huggers and a tank top behind the bench at every game and whispering to him during warm-ups.

And Sylvia sucked out loud but at least she won SOMETHING at the collegiate level...oh and she's STILL younger than Belichick.
 
No, I'm not engaging you seriously in the conversation because you intend to be entirely disingenuous about it based on these kinds of posts.
I'm not pretending to be obtuse if that is how you feel, i'm 100% serious. How do you think her attire impacts how our athletes prepare and how our coaches prepare? I don't see how her hotness impacts things like nutritional goals, lifting, playbook, practice and gameday prep of players, similarly I don't get how it impacts coaches.

If you don't feel like being specific, and you are feel okay in this convo to generalize with the word "distraction", that's fine.
 
I'm not pretending to be obtuse if that is how you feel, i'm 100% serious. How do you think her attire impacts how our athletes prepare and how our coaches prepare? I don't see how her hotness impacts things like nutritional goals, lifting, playbook, practice and gameday prep of players, similarly I don't get how it impacts coaches.

If you don't feel like being specific, and you are feel okay in this convo to generalize with the word "distraction", that's fine.
The head coach is distracted and not paying attention. He is doing interviews, stories, gigs, etc entirely disassociated from his football program. Those within the football program are dealing with a deluge of comments and questions all about the girlfriend of the head coach. The players on campus hear more about Jordon than any other topic every time they interact with anyone. If you dont think that wears on people and affects their performance, that's fine. I do.
 
To my knowledge, none of our cheerleaders or tutors or trainers are on the cover of Us Weekly this week, or have made us the brunt of every joke by every national college football talking head. These guys don’t exist in a bubble, man. They’re still 18-24 year old college males. They’re all over social media. The get texts from their buddies and friends on other teams. They aren’t just existing in a bubble all day thinking about how to block and tackle better.

Okay, so you are saying it is NOT her age, hotness or presence, rather it is the jokes that could make them take their jobs less seriously. That makes sense as an argument, like if they're becoming deflated by the memes and jokes. But those memes would come just due to the losses alone.

They know when their head coach doesn’t seem to be taking things as seriously as he once did, because if he was taking things as seriously as he once did, nobody would even know who his girlfriend was, much less would she be on magazine covers and all over social media and prancing around the pregame sidelines dressed in go-go boots and a mini-skirt.

Baseless supposition.
 
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The head coach is distracted and not paying attention. He is doing interviews, stories, gigs, etc entirely disassociated from his football program.
Could 60 mins sitdown have been a distraction, maybe. It was after the spring game. Maybe not though. It might have drawn zero focus from his job.
Those within the football program are dealing with a deluge of comments and questions all about the girlfriend of the head coach.
The players on campus hear more about Jordon than any other topic every time they interact with anyone.
thanks for the specific examples. If our players are drama queens, then i could see them obsessing more over Jordon than their lifting, playbook etc. I hope they aren't.
 
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Something tells me that nobody who defends Belichick would have defended Sylvia Hatchell if she had started parading around some roided-up 20 year old dude in nut huggers and a tank top behind the bench at every game and whispering to him during warm-ups.

And Sylvia sucked out loud but at least she won SOMETHING at the collegiate level...oh and she's STILL younger than Belichick.
Marion Jones, Crawley and Charlotte probably would've just quit.
 
Okay, so you are saying it is NOT her age, hotness or presence, rather it is the jokes that could make them take their jobs less seriously. That makes sense as an argument, like if they're becoming deflated by the memes and jokes. But those memes would come just due to the losses alone.



Baseless supposition.
You’re welcome to continue to believe that her presence has zero to do with why her boyfriend apparently suddenly sucks worse as a coach than John Bunting, but the rest of us are going to continue to point to the fact that it is absolutely a suspicious thing that somehow he has become a completely 180 degree different coach than he was when she wasn’t part of his life. Are we saying that she is 100% of why this season sucks? Nope. Are we saying she’s even the majority reason why this season sucks? Nope. We are saying that her presence is not *NOT* a probable contributing factor- even if it’s a minor one comparatively, say, 10%- and if that is the case, it’s unacceptable that the head coach has allowed it to become a problem. I’m not saying she’s the disease- I’m saying she’s a symptom.

I’ll ask you again: what do you think that the Bill Belichick of 2008 would think of what the Bill Belichick of 2025 is doing? What do you think 2008 Bill Belichick’s staff and players would think of what 2025 Bill Belichick is doing? UNC is paying $50 million- $30 million of it guaranteed- to have 2008 Bill Belichick, and that’s 180 degrees away from what we are currently getting. You may find that to be acceptable. I don’t.

College football players don’t exist in a vacuum, man. When there’s a lot of negativity and drama and unwanted publicity and ridicule *on top of* the product on the field sucking and the coaching appearing to be incompetent, they’re going to likely perform even worse than they otherwise would have if the negativity and drama and unwanted publicity and ridicule didn’t exist. I don’t see how this is controversial.
 
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I don't think she is the reason why Belichick has changed. I think she is a byproduct of how he has changed. I think after he couldn't find another NFL team to hire him after the Pats he just said screw it. I have 6 Super Bowl rings. People call me a genius. I'm already rich. My legacy is already set. Now I can just take this college gig for a couple of years, get more money and screw around with a woman that could be my granddaughter.
 
Urban Meyer gave an interview just today where he said that he thinks that Hudson is a big distraction for Bill and by extension the team, so nobody has to take *my * word for it. Take Urban’s! Shannon Sharpe said the same earlier this week. Take Shannon’s! Keep in mind, Urban and Shannon were apparently poon hounds themselves so I might listen to them on this.
 
I don't think she is the reason why Belichick has changed. I think she is a byproduct of how he has changed. I think after he couldn't find another NFL team to hire him after the Pats he just said screw it. I have 6 Super Bowl rings. People call me a genius. I'm already rich. My legacy is already set. Now I can just take this college gig for a couple of years, get more money and screw around with a woman that could be my granddaughter.
And there would be nothing wrong with any of that IMO if we were fielding a better team right now.
 
I’ll ask you again: what do you think that the Bill Belichick of 2008 would think of what the Bill Belichick of 2025 is doing? .
He'd say I'm going to do want I want as long as I don't feel distracted from my job. Being a jerk to media created public drama...
 
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Maybe I'm softening on the Belichick hire, but I feel much better about this weekend. I feel like we have a chance. The offense will still be terrible but I think the D can build momentum against bye.
The nice thing about two bye weeks and a Friday night game is that we can only lose on one Saturday max between 9/14 and 10/24. So my weekends will be better.
 
He's say I'm going to do want I want as long as I don't feel distracted from my job. Being a jerk to media created public drama...
And therein lies the rub! 2025 Bill Belichick *does* seem to be distracted in a manner which is adversely impacting his job performance in a way that 2008 Bill Belichick would have never remotely considered doing. And THAT’s the entire point of my argument. We are paying $50 million because we thought we would get 2008 Bill Belichick and we are getting 2025 Bill Belichick whose teams are getting blown off the field by anyone with a pulse because we are getting literally nothing of what made 2008 Bill Belichick so great.
 
The fact that she is a topic of discussion and she nor Bill has figured out the best thing for her to do is be invisible right now makes me question both of their judgements. UNC football is a shit show right now and she is a story that they can somewhat control. Put some clothes on, and go sit in a box somewhere. Not because I want to deny her right to do whatever she wants to do as a woman but because dammit limit the distractions/stories. But what the hell do I know.
 
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