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ColdBlueSteel said:
Are funeral homes the only way out of this world?
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nycfan said:
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Anyone subscribing to this line of thought is brain dead. Which is why it’s so popular with Maggots. Trump/Elon know the real issue is they aren’t following the law of the land/constitution, but they feed this bullshit to the rubes and they fall for it hook line and seeker. Feeds right into their qanon conspiracy theory worldview.
 
HandsonFire said:
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Anyone subscribing to this line of thought is brain dead. Which is why it’s so popular with Maggots. Trump/Elon know the real issue is they aren’t following the law of the land/constitution, but they feed this bullshit to the rubes and they fall for it hook line and seeker. Feeds right into their qanon conspiracy theory worldview.
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I used to love watching King of the Hill, and MAGA is basically an army of Dale Gribbles. Convinced that there are weird dark conspiracies out there everywhere holding them back but failed to see that John Redcorn had been sleeping with his wife for years, and is the real father of his child. They keep seeing conspiracies against them in all the wrong places.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up with your bullshit. You know god damned well what Musk was implying, and you know god damned well how little effort it takes to get millions of Trump-voting simpletons to believe that there are thousands (or millions!) of people receiving benefits they weren’t supposed to.

He didn’t even fucking clarify what he meant by the graphic. He just posted it so the brain-dead Elon fanboy conspiracists can get worked into a lather.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit. At least people like Callatoroy and Ramrouser don’t portray themselves as anything other than the dirtbags that they are. You attempt to act like you are this above the fray bosider who is “just askin’ questions, man” to throw us off your scent, but you are no better than any of the countless bigoted, low-IQ, mouth-breathers that pass for Trump idolaters these days.
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I’d say you’re worked into a lather. What’s it that keeps getting batted around here about the accuser?

Agree with Zen. Seems the implication is that the data housekeeping is suspect, not that 300 year olds are cashing checks.
 
ZenMode said:
As far as I've seen, Elon never said there was fraud in SS or that tens of millions of people were receiving SS payments that shouldn't be. He simply pointed out that really old people were listed in the SS database, right?
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He was strongly implying that there was fraud, is how I read it.
 
ZenMode said:
I'm not asking you to do anything. When Elon has "found" fraud, he's called it out a long with a dollar amount. Has he said he found fraud in SS? Has he called out a dollar amount or is he just pointing out the ridiculousness of their database info as a result of old technology?
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There is nothing wrong with the database. That he has you convinced there is something wrong with the database is step one.
Trump is already to step two where he is declaring that there is massive fraud in social security.
Step three is massive cuts.
 
ColdBlueSteel said:
Agree with Zen. Seems the implication is that the data housekeeping is suspect, not that 300 year olds are cashing checks.
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As someone who paid his way through law school as a professional database programmer, I can tell you with 100% certainty that this is normal.
 
superrific said:
So when Elon says he's revealing the largest fraud in history, what is he referring to?

First, there is no evidence that it doesn't track age correctly, and lots of evidence that it does -- you know, everyone who starts collecting Social Security at a certain age and not when they are 53. It's just that you don't know how the database works, and neither does Elon. As I've said before, it is incredibly common for databases to have columns that are not filled out as one might think. In fact, I can't remember EVER working on a database that doesn't have unused columns. Obviously I haven't seen this database, but the mere fact of an underutilized column means absolutely nothing.

The "business logic" for paying benefits could be anywhere. It wouldn't have to be in the SS database. It could be in the payment system. It could be somewhere else. In fact, I'd be surprised if it's in a single COBOL-based data file.
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Forget about databases super (with all due respect), it is impossible for there to be millions of people to still be receiving SS payments after they are dead. Trump is just looking for an excuse to dismantle the main basis of our social safety net.
 
Trump and our broken public sphere make goddamn accelerationists of us all: are these hypothetical cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid what it finally takes to enrage the public and give Congress the wherewithal to take back the power of the purse?
 
breepf said:
Trump and our broken public sphere make goddamn accelerationists of us all: are these hypothetical cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid what it finally takes to enrage the public and give Congress the wherewithal to take back the power of the purse?
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If you think there is anything Trump can do that will generate pushback from even 5% of those who voted for him or Republican members of Congress, you're sorely mistaken.
 
Patb78 said:
Forget about databases super (with all due respect), it is impossible for there to be millions of people to still be receiving SS payments after they are dead. Trump is just looking for an excuse to dismantle the main basis of our social safety net.
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Bingo. That's all this is about, period. Trump and Elon are hoping they can convince their base that there is so much corruption in Social Security and Medicare that they need to drastically "reform" and cut it to "save" it. And that will be their excuse to do so. Given how gullible their base has been regarding Trump I wouldn't doubt that they might well succeed, even though many of them will be financially devastated if they do so.
 
If you think things are expensive now, wait and see what happens when we send everyone a $5000 check.

Fast food restaurants will just have to close down for a lack of workers.

What a mess. It will also piss off the middle and upper class who will be competing with otherwise poor people for goods and services.
 
Got us a few “conservatives” on this here board who screamed and cried bloody murder about the INFLATIONARY BIDEN STIMULUS CHECKS (conveniently ignoring that it was Trump 1.0 who sent out the first two rounds!) who will be very, very conspicuously silent about this latest harebrained proposal from the current POTUS. We used to have a #HypocrisyFreeZone here. We used to have a country!
 
CFordUNC said:
Got us a few “conservatives” on this here board who screamed and cried bloody murder about the INFLATIONARY BIDEN STIMULUS CHECKS (conveniently ignoring that it was Trump 1.0 who sent out the first two rounds!) who will be very, very conspicuously silent about this latest harebrained proposal from the current POTUS. We used to have a #HypocrisyFreeZone here. We used to have a country!
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Yes and those same posters whine about the debt. I wonder how they will feel when this plan increases the debt instead of decreasinging it, since all of musk's claims are lies.
 
ChileG said:
There is nothing wrong with the database. That he has you convinced there is something wrong with the database is step one.
Trump is already to step two where he is declaring that there is massive fraud in social security.
Step three is massive cuts.
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There is something wrong with it. That's why the media is having to explain the inaccurate data by talking about an archaic programming language

There will be no massive cuts to social security, Medicaid, etc.
 
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