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To be clear, her district is more than Dearborn, so would need better data to figure out how many voted for Tlaib and Trump.
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To be clear, her district is more than Dearborn, so would need better data to figure out how many voted for Tlaib and Trump.
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“… Dearborn Heights’ independent mayor, Bill Bazzi—a Muslim immigrant from Lebanon who served in the United States Marines—also supported Trump. In an interview with Politico, Bazzi expressed his anger toward Harris’s campaign: “My main objective is about peace and economic prosperity for our country. But what really pushed me over the edge is when Kamala Harris brought Liz Cheney to our backyard.”
… “I just had a flashback to when her dad [former Vice President Dick Cheney] started the war in Iraq. … So now you bring a Cheney to our backyard, whose family started a war, and now we’re in a war,” Bazzi told Politico, adding, That’s when I was like, enough of this! I decided to go forward with a public endorsement after I chatted with President Trump to find out his platform. He’s a man of peace.”
… Harris’s choice to campaign with the Cheneys was widely perceived as appealing to a pro-Iraq War constituency that no longer exists—adding to the sense that Harris was a candidate out of her depth politically.
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However, despite their disdain for the president-elect, some voters in Michigan believe that the conditions in Gaza and South Lebanon cannot get any worse regardless of who is the next U.S. president.
Saba Saed, a Palestinian American who voted for Stein, echoed a similar sentiment to Foreign Policy, expressing her indifference toward the idea that Trump will exacerbate Palestinian and Lebanese suffering any further: “It’s hard to care when they’re clearly just lying [about Gaza and South Lebanon]. I don’t know anymore. What’s worse than what’s going on right now in Gaza?” Saed asked.“
“… Dearborn Heights’ independent mayor, Bill Bazzi—a Muslim immigrant from Lebanon who served in the United States Marines—also supported Trump. In an interview with Politico, Bazzi expressed his anger toward Harris’s campaign: “My main objective is about peace and economic prosperity for our country. But what really pushed me over the edge is when Kamala Harris brought Liz Cheney to our backyard.”
… “I just had a flashback to when her dad [former Vice President Dick Cheney] started the war in Iraq. … So now you bring a Cheney to our backyard, whose family started a war, and now we’re in a war,” Bazzi told Politico, adding, That’s when I was like, enough of this! I decided to go forward with a public endorsement after I chatted with President Trump to find out his platform. He’s a man of peace.”
… Harris’s choice to campaign with the Cheneys was widely perceived as appealing to a pro-Iraq War constituency that no longer exists—adding to the sense that Harris was a candidate out of her depth politically.
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However, despite their disdain for the president-elect, some voters in Michigan believe that the conditions in Gaza and South Lebanon cannot get any worse regardless of who is the next U.S. president.
Saba Saed, a Palestinian American who voted for Stein, echoed a similar sentiment to Foreign Policy, expressing her indifference toward the idea that Trump will exacerbate Palestinian and Lebanese suffering any further: “It’s hard to care when they’re clearly just lying [about Gaza and South Lebanon]. I don’t know anymore. What’s worse than what’s going on right now in Gaza?” Saed asked.“
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And guess where most younger generations are going to for their news?
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This is exactly why American suffering needs to be pronounced under Trump. Without true consequences, people will never acknowledge the mistakes of putting Trump in office. For too long they've taken every single freedom for granted.
The culling must occur in the most prolific and painful ways possible before this country gets it.
The culling must occur in the most prolific and painful ways possible before this country gets it.
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In 2004, we suffered due to wars. What was the result of that election? In 2020, yep we suffered and threw Trump out. But four years later where are we now? What you are talking about is a kind of "reactionary politics" as the way to win the Presidency. Otherwords, they screw up and we win. That's not a fundamental way of winning in my opinion.
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I'm floored that you guys don't understand why Arab Americans didn't fall in line behind Biden/Harris.
I'm floored that they thought the alternative was better. FAFO
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Whomst among us hasn’t voted for a guy whose campaign promise was to “let Bibi do whatever the hell he wants” as it pertains to Gaza/Palestinians, and whose first act as president – elect is to appoint an ambassador to Israel who says that Palestine isn’t a real thing!? Shocker! The guy who told you his goal it to build a Trump Tower on the Gaza Strip maaaaaaay not have had the best interests of the Arabs in mind!
I’m getting perverse pleasure out of all of these people who are starting to see the light juuuuuuuust a hair too late. Leopards, faces, fucking around, finding out, things of that general nature.
I’m getting perverse pleasure out of all of these people who are starting to see the light juuuuuuuust a hair too late. Leopards, faces, fucking around, finding out, things of that general nature.
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I hope those people feel the full weight of their protest vote while Israel is wiping Palestine off the face of the earth and the Trump administration is cheering them on. Those dumb fucks basically voted for the genocide of their own people. And I hope Rashida Tlaib feels the greatest remorse of them all for her refusal to endorse Kamala. Fuck her.
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Testing Bluesky …
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The Post has the first inside look at a Musk-linked operation that used arguably deceptive digital ads and other approaches to depress democratic voter turnout. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/15/republican-ads-false-flag/
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I posted this very xtweet on the "Trump voters buyers' remorse" thread the other day:
It's astounding no one in Dearborn-ish seemingly bothered to think this through, when even though before the election, Trump told Netanyahu on a call "do what you have to do in Gaza" and Mike Huckabee, now the newly-appointed Amb to Israel as of Jan 20, is on record as saying there's "no such thing as Palestine"
Way to think it through, folks - enjoy the fruits of your misplaced anger.
Inshallah habib....inshallah...
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I posted this very xtweet on the "Trump voters buyers' remorse" thread the other day:
It's astounding no one in Dearborn-ish seemingly bothered to think this through, when even though before the election, Trump told Netanyahu on a call "do what you have to do in Gaza" and Mike Huckabee, now the newly-appointed Amb to Israel as of Jan 20, is on record as saying there's "no such thing as Palestine"
Way to think it through, folks - enjoy the fruits of your misplaced anger.
Inshallah habib....inshallah...
I don’t know that anger is entirely misplaced but I think the transactional nature of voting decisions we all have to make may have been grossly miscalculated.
Adam Tooze chalks up the rightward shift of the multicultural working class to its immediate distaste for a college-educated professional-managerial class that is always telling it what to do and how to think. Given the choice, then, they prefer a brash billionaire who rubs the PMC the wrong way over lady lawyers in pant suits.
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I was definitely going to buy a house if I could've gotten $25K in down payment assistance and certainly will if it becomes available anytime in the future...
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You want to really take pressure off the rental AND purchase markets...outlaw short term rentals nationwide unless licensed as a hotel. Definitely do this with rental arbitrage. That's your real shortage. We have probably 1/4 of the housing stock in the Triangle sitting empty 50% of the time because everybody and their brother owns 3 short term rentals.
The problem with that is that we are addicted to VRBO and AirBnB as a society.
All those fancy apartments in North Hills in Raleigh are at about 35-40% occupancy for residents. The rest are tenants who have 10-15 units and rent them out nightly 2 nights a week when people want to come to party or see a concert. Building management looks the other way because it lowers their costs by having the units out of service so much and puts less pressure on building amenities.
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Thanks for the information-I fully understand you are the opoposite of full of crap on such usses
Since messaging is all the rage now: If the perceived Democratic messaging is that "we will let Bibi do what the hell he wants" , then what kind of message is that? You know, its not just Arab Americans that have an issue with that, not to mention its wrong.
I get it, that there are two opposing voter groups here, but we can't point out the difference in supporting Israel and opposing an extremist like Bibi? Something has got to be out of whack here.
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They have marginalized themselves for a decade at least. Nobody will ever count on their vote for anything ever again. Which means they might get some confetti thrown their way once every four years (but probably not, since their communities are likely pariahs), but will not share in the spoils of any Dem victories.
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I do, given that my wife and I frequently vacation with 6 kids. It seems to me that there are a few use cases:
1. Summer vacation spots. Where I live, there are tons of properties that are available during the summer for VRBO use. I think we all accept this as a good use case. It's not a cabin in the mountains, but same idea.
2. Cities. This is where I think maybe you're not appreciating how the rentals help people traveling in large groups. That said, I have no idea what % of the short term renters fit this category. Everywhere I've rented (one in a city, otherwise vacation), it's clear that the properties are frequently rented to large groups. In related news, since we pretty much always travel with 8, we're only looking at those properties. No idea what % of the market I'm describing.
3. People who want to cook in a kitchen. Again, this is a must for me, because taking 8 to a restaurant for every meal is very expensive. This category partly overlaps with the big families category, but not entirely. My wife used to work every other week in a rural area serving a poor population. She wanted to cook at least some of the time (in part because restaurant options were pretty limited). There were no good hotels, to your point, but I think she probably would have gone with the non-hotel property anyway.