If you think the boat-in-the-driveway MAGA head is remotely close to the kind of voter I’m talking about the party winning back then you’re on another planet, not me.
I can only imagine what it is like to have folks, who you know are very intelligent, continue to "miss the point" of your posts. You might be going crazy, I don't know, but you are definitely explaining yourself and your points, which I agree with (and have even tried to take up the fight with you, and snoop), very well. It seems that some simply can't let go of it being because of racism or mysoginy and actually look deeper into the reasons why so many voted for Trump. We all know that Trump is a horrible choice and will only make things worse, yet they fall back on repeating that, as if you or I or anyone else here is arguing that he will improve things. What they refuse to acknoweledge is the simple expression: if you keep doing what you are doing then you will get what you've gotten. Many folks look at what they've gotten these past four years and are afraid of it continuing. Luckily I haven't had to worry about being able to afford rent or groceries, but that doesn't mean that I can't try to put myself in someone's shoes who has. To those folks, they are faced with the choice: vote for the status quo or vote for a shot in the dark. If you feel like the first option is a guaranteed loss then what would you do? Many folks are up against the wall right now, and rather than being acknowledged they are told about how great the economy is doing. As you said, it's a slap in the face. Anyways, my soapbox is cracking, so I'll leave by saying, thank you for having the strength to continue pointing this out, and I hope those refusing to accept it will come around.
If that's the case, then there's nothing to do do other than wait for it to get much worse for them than it has been. Youre essentially saying that the only thing motivating them to vote is "anything other than the same". So just wait and be "not the same".
Harris could’ve offered change with the right campaign strategy. That’s the whole argument we’re having here. She embraced stasis and tried to ride it out with a risk averse strategy.
I don't know about that. Of all the bullshit that was thrown at Harris I thought the one that made sense to me was "if youre different why aren't you doing it now". While I logically understand a VP doesn't set policy, I don't think that wall was going to be broken through.
We’ll never know if it would’ve made the difference for her to cleanly break with Biden on a number of things while still acknowledging the success of parts of his record.
No other candidate will be able to replicate Trump’s formula. He fired up and expanded the base like basically no one before him ever has
So biggly he might get 50% of the vote. Pretty sure that would put him in the bottom half.
If it's vibes, can someone capture the Trump-vibes or will it be easy to ride anti-incumbent vibes?
He won the election despite being the most hated person in American politics history by the other side. All because he fired the base up so much and expanded the base to reach new voters who usually don’t vote.
Which is the single greatest condemnation of the American people in our lifetimes. He is such a singularly awful human being. That he motivates people is shocking to my core and will always remain that way.
I don't think it's "vibes" as much as it is that Trump is more popular with certain segments of the population that many give him credit for. He increased his 2020 vote by 11 million more votes than in 2016, despite his first term being a total shitshow. And he'll get about that same number of votes this year. I don't see any of the current crop of Republicans having that kind of charisma or drawing power. The danger, imo, is that another new Republican will come along who does have something similar to Trump's charisma and ability to bring new voters into the party.
Is Trump the Republican Obama?
And ended up with about the same number of votes because the old and smart left at about the same rate as the young and dumb joined on. No doubt he won. Brag on that if you want to. He really is a great con man. I'll bet no candidate ever made as much money hawking junk to his followers.
In terms of personal quality and character and intelligence and decency and dignity and all the other things you should look for in a good person and president, absolutely not. In terms of his popularity with his party's base and ability to bring out new voters and, yes, a certain level of personal charisma that draws his followers to him, probably yes.
Right, didn’t mean the first part.
