đź‘€ Waltz, SecDef SignalGate | Hegseth copies wife, lawyer on second Signal thread

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dukeman92 said:
It’s almost as if poor Pete wasn’t qualified for this job. If only we would have known.
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Who could have guessed that hiring a Fox News host, alcoholic womanizer, and accused sexual assaulter instead of a military or administrative specialist to run the Defense Department might be a disaster? We have an administration that consists almost entirely of internet trolls, drug-addled conspiracy loons, Fox News talking heads and blowhards with little to no administrative or government experience, professional wrestling CEOs, spineless right-wing former Senators, and extreme bigots and incompetent crackpots of all types. Just thirty or forty years ago many of these people would still be confined to the very fringes of our political and social life where they belong, and would have little to no influence on government policy. It's as if we've given Joseph McCarthy, Roy Cohn, George Wallace, Jesse Helms, and Rush Limbaugh the keys to total control of the federal government and then just turned them loose. And only now are some starting to wonder why things aren't going so well. Insanity.
 
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Mulberry Heel said:
Who could have guessed that hiring a Fox News host, alcoholic womanizer, and accused sexual assaulter instead of a military or administrative specialist to run the Defense Department might be a disaster? We have an administration that consists almost entirely of internet trolls, drug-addled conspiracy loons, Fox News talking heads and blowhards with little to no administrative or government experience, professional wrestling CEOs, spineless right-wing former Senators, and extreme bigots and incompetent crackpots of all types. Just thirty or forty years ago many of these people would still be confined to the very fringes of our political and social life where they belong, and would have little to no influence on government policy. It's as if we've given Joseph McCarthy, Roy Cohn, George Wallace, Jesse Helms, and Rush Limbaugh the keys to total control of the federal government and then just turned them loose. And only now are some starting to wonder why things aren't going so well. Insanity.
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And the biggest problem is that 99% of the electorate has absolutely zero clue how the government works or why. So these fools will be allowed to run amuck with little to no consequences (as we're seeing)
 
nycfan said:
Weird position— that Trump stands behind Hegseth even though the “entire Pentagon” is against Hegseth and your policies?

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Dangerous position, too. Unless you’re planning a Cultural Revolution, pissing off 20,000 people with experience planning and executing mass violence seems “smart” in a “I like playing with downed power lines.” sort of manner.
 
nycfan said:
Weird position— that Trump stands behind Hegseth even though the “entire Pentagon” is against Hegseth and your policies?

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I think it makes sense. Guy is coming in to cut some sacred cows and hopefully, although not likely, cut the defense budget. He's going to get push back for that.

But I think the sending signal chats to unauthorized people should be enough to bring him down. I think there are plenty of people that could go in and slash the budget.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I think it makes sense. Guy is coming in to cut some sacred cows and hopefully, although not likely, cut the defense budget. He's going to get push back for that.

But I think the sending signal chats to unauthorized people should be enough to bring him down. I think there are plenty of people that could go in and slash the budget.
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It’s not just the signal chats. It’s the fact that the entire department is a chaotic mess under him.
 
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WaynetheDrain said:
It’s not justly the signal chats. It’s the fact that the entire department is a chaotic mess under him.
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In most contexts, when the entire organization is revolting against the folks in charge, we call that poor leadership.

But hey, Hegseth gave an unenforceable, unobservable promise to stop drinking to Joni Ernst, so you know. I can't believe they confirmed him.
 
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