Gavin Newsom addresses the nation

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Calheel said:
Pelosi gets street cred for all the hard work she did as a cat herder of Democrats for 30 years. She is a ruthless politician and probably not someone I would want to spend time with. But she was an excellent, excellent leader.

Newsom hasn’t shown .001% of the gravitas of Pelosi. Also, the skills to become president are totally different than the skills to become speaker. I obviously wouldn’t want Nancy running for President either.
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So you’re a hypocrite? You discredit all of Newsom’s good work for eating at a restaurant, yet don’t with Pelosi for getting a haircut.
 
stankeylegjones said:
I’m not defending him doing that, and neither did he. He said it was a bad idea to go. I am also not using it to discredit all of his other good moves. In fact, it’s ridiculous that you are.

I am pointing out your mistake in thinking he violated policies in place at the time of the dinner. He did not.

Fyi, Yountville is in Napa.
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It is in Napa Valley, but not in Napa.
 
stankeylegjones said:
So you’re a hypocrite? You discredit all of Newsom’s good work for eating at a restaurant, yet don’t with Pelosi for getting a haircut.
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What good work has Newsom done? He has a super majority in the legislature and has done nothing of note in his years in office. Our budget deficit is now over $20 billion a year. We have a train to nowhere.

Meanwhile, Newsom has decided to dabble in MAGA platforming:
 
Calheel said:
Pelosi gets street cred for all the hard work she did as a cat herder of Democrats for 30 years. She is a ruthless politician and probably not someone I would want to spend time with. But she was an excellent, excellent leader.

Newsom hasn’t shown .001% of the gravitas of Pelosi. Also, the skills to become president are totally different than the skills to become speaker. I obviously wouldn’t want Nancy running for President either.
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I’m curious.

Are you a Democrat?

Left Democrat (Elizabeth Warren)?

Are you a Left-of-Center Independent? That would make you WAY LEFT of most Americans.

This isn’t a criticism, my best guess is you’re anti-Trump and a Reaganite-“Libertarian.”

I’m wondering why you hate Newsom so much…..I wrote him off as a legitimate national candidate with his French Laundry BS.

I just question his political astuteness; you HATE the guy?

Why the hate?
 
Calheel said:
What good work has Newsom done? He has a super majority in the legislature and has done nothing of note in his years in office. Our budget deficit is now over $20 billion a year. We have a train to nowhere.

Meanwhile, Newsom has decided to dabble in MAGA platforming:
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Speaking of covid, I think he did a good job helping us get through it. You disagree based solely on him eating at a restaurant, at a time when it was not against any policy and all guidelines were adhered to.
 
Zoo_View said:
I’m curious.

Are you a Democrat?

Left Democrat (Elizabeth Warren)?

Are you a Left-of-Center Independent? That would make you WAY LEFT of most Americans.

This isn’t a criticism, my best guess is you’re anti-Trump and a Reaganite-“Libertarian.”

I’m wondering why you hate Newsom so much…..I wrote him off as a legitimate national candidate with his French Laundry BS.

I just question his political astuteness; you HATE the guy?

Why the hate?
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I hate fraudsters. It is one of the reasons I hate Trump so much. Trump doesn't believe a lot of the stuff he says, either (he hates nonwhites, of course, but he has to fake the other Republican talking points).

I also hate candidates that I don't think can win. And it pisses me off that an unelectable Gavin Newsom is using this moment to get a leg up on the primary competition.

My politics are largely mainline Democratic, with some views that are slightly more progressive and some that are slightly more moderate. On this board's scale, I'd imagine I'd be slightly right of average, but I'm not sure.
 
Calheel said:
Napa (as I mentioned). Are we really going to argue about this? Napa is a city, too. And Yountville is about 15 miles north of Napa.
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It wasn’t clear that the guidelines were for Napa county, especially given the article was talking about him eating at the French Laundry?
 
stankeylegjones said:
No, you said it is not in Napa county. It’s important because the guidelines I posted were for Napa county.
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I definitely did not say that. Having spent more time than I would like in the Napa courthouse, I very much know the difference between Napa the City and Napa the County.
 
Calheel said:
I hate fraudsters. It is one of the reasons I hate Trump so much. Trump doesn't believe a lot of the stuff he says, either (he hates nonwhites, of course, but he has to fake the other Republican talking points).

I also hate candidates that I don't think can win. And it pisses me off that an unelectable Gavin Newsom is using this moment to get a leg up on the primary competition.

My politics are largely mainline Democratic, with some views that are slightly more progressive and some that are slightly more moderate. On this board's scale, I'd imagine I'd be slightly right of average, but I'm not sure.
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Did you think Biden could win a reelection? What about Kamala?
 
stankeylegjones said:
Did you think Biden could win a reelection? What about Kamala?
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No (at least not after the first debate) and no. I was strongly advocating for Andy Beshear or Gretchen Whitmer. But Biden essentially made that impossible when he immediately endorsed Kamala.
 
Calheel said:
I definitely did not say that. Having spent more time than I would like in the Napa courthouse, I very much know the difference between Napa the City and Napa the County.
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Who in their right mind would think you meant Napa the CITY when referring to Yountville not being in Napa? Of course it’s not, it’s a town.
 
Calheel said:
No (at least not after the first debate) and no. I was strongly advocating for Andy Beshear or Gretchen Whitmer. But Biden essentially made that impossible when he immediately endorsed Kamala.
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So, you hate them as well. I’ll go ahead and say that you hate Pete, AOC, and many others. It seems that your hate of democrats is strongly influenced by who the magats hate.
 
Calheel said:
I hate fraudsters. It is one of the reasons I hate Trump so much. Trump doesn't believe a lot of the stuff he says, either (he hates nonwhites, of course, but he has to fake the other Republican talking points).

I also hate candidates that I don't think can win. And it pisses me off that an unelectable Gavin Newsom is using this moment to get a leg up on the primary competition.

My politics are largely mainline Democratic, with some views that are slightly more progressive and some that are slightly more moderate. On this board's scale, I'd imagine I'd be slightly right of average, but I'm not sure.
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You have a legal background, right? Your posts are more logical than most.

For some reason, to me, you seem to HATE Gavin Newsom. To me, he’s kind of a non-descript politician - boring and who gives a fuck about him…….you hate him. Why?

I see him disappearing like that governor from Vermont who howled during a press conference - Howard Dean.

Gavin Newsom is mentioned as a candidate for POTUS BECAUSE he’s California’s Governor.

He doesn’t have “it.” He’ll be prominent for the next 18-24 months. He’ll stall out when he has to interact with voters.

I hope he hammers the fuck out of Trump and the GOP while he has media attention.
 
stankeylegjones said:
Who in their right mind would think you meant Napa the CITY when referring to Yountville not being in Napa? Of course it’s not, it’s a town.
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Exactly. But 99.9% of the world does not know that the French Laundry restaurant is not in Napa (the city) but Yountville.

In any event, this seems like such a weird fight. The problem with Newsom had nothing to do with Napa County guidelines. It was that he loudly and publicly told everyone in the entire state not to eat Thanksgiving dinner with MiMaw. That you could only take down your mask for a minute to gobble turkey with immediate family members only. And yet, when he is giving that advice to the entire state, he is going to a big shindig paid by lobbyists. And then he lies by saying it was an "outdoor" gathering. Does this look outdoors to you:
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Calheel said:
Exactly. But 99.9% of the world does not know that the French Laundry restaurant is not in Napa (the city) but Yountville.

In any event, this seems like such a weird fight. The problem with Newsom had nothing to do with Napa County guidelines. It was that he loudly and publicly told everyone in the entire state not to eat Thanksgiving dinner with MiMaw. That you could only take down your mask for a minute to gobble turkey with immediate family members only. And yet, when he is giving that advice to the entire state, he is going to a big shindig paid by lobbyists. And then he lies by saying it was an "outdoor" gathering. Does this look outdoors to you:
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The restaurant incident shows that Newsom is a STUPID politician.

Why do YOU hate him?
 
Zoo_View said:
You have a legal background, right? Your posts are more logical than most.

For some reason, to me, you seem to HATE Gavin Newsom. To me, he’s kind of a non-descript politician - boring and who gives a fuck about him…….you hate him. Why?

I see him disappearing like that governor from Vermont who howled during a press conference - Howard Dean.

Gavin Newsom is mentioned as a candidate for POTUS BECAUSE he’s California’s Governor.

He doesn’t have “it.” He’ll be prominent for the next 18-24 months. He’ll stall out when he has to interact with voters.

I hope he hammers the fuck out of Trump and the GOP while he has media attention.
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He also hates Biden and Kamala and Pete and AOC, along with any other person who he doesn’t think can win an election. It’s such an odd take, one which is greatly influenced by magats.
 
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