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Happy for your friends. 2 nice anecdotes. But without going into so many other objections save these.

1) What if the rescue ATV lost it injuring themselves in the process? Who are they blaming then. Can easily happen.

2) What if the enforcement folks (who most likely know the dangers ahead) let them pass. Oops. The ATVs are in trouble. Five will getcha ten they and their friends would be raising hell about how could they let them pass.

I have posted earlier about Madison Co. land I owned. It is currently impossible to reach on the narrow washed out road and 10' vanished bridge (now most likely wider). Densely and steeply forested on both sides. An ATV could not pass without major chain saw work if then. However, I can picture at least 2 possible routes an ATV could take encompassing making it up to a ridge line from an other direction/properties (if those paths are available) and then traversing about a mile or so on mostly cow pasture land and then knowing a pathway down through the forest. I know it. An old neighbor does. Doubt few others do.

I would not expect local, let alone federal recovery teams to have ready access to an endless supply of ATVs and the man power it would take to try to reach literally hundreds of hollers like mine.
 
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Piling on Ehaus is not a good look. He’s just telling you what he’s hearing. Sounds like there are communication issues with local and federal officials and the public. Communication issues made worse by the fact that a lot of people affected haven’t had access to phone or internet.

Part of why I’ve been so upset is because when you step outside the bubble, you see that a lot of folks are really distrustful of the government and are willing to not only accept the disinformation but share it widely. On Facebook I’ve been trying to get people to vote for the Linville Rescue Squad and repost my link — super easy thing to do for a good cause — and like six people have done it. But make a post about how FEMA is confiscating goods or only giving out $750 or blocking people from getting supplies because you’re a Republican? Instant like and reshare to all your friend groups and it gets hundreds of thousands of views. It’s so bad.

I found this graphic today about trust in the government. We’re not doing too well. Trump and QAnon came and made things monumentally worse, and we’re also on the cusp of MAJOR issues with AI. I don’t know how people will be able to suss out the truth in 10-15 years, or how far our faith in journalism, our election process or government will be eroded. Somewhat frightening tbh.
 
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McAdooSmackinYou said:
why are so many people contacting you right after the libdem FEMAnazis shut them down?
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Just close Friends who went up to take supplies and items. Two of them. They texted and called and told me what was going on. It's really that simple. It does appear they are mistaken about it being FEMA, but someone was not letting them in the area they wanted to go, so they went around and in another way that was more treacherous, but managed to make it and get items distributed and some people that wanted out, out. That's all I know to say. I last spoke earlier this afternoon with one of them. Spoke with the other right before my initial post.
 
There are serious communication issues when a certain set of people are deliberately blowing air horns in your face when you try to tell them the truth and they then claim they can’t hear you.

Just a fraction of critical thinking can help these folks but ignorance is a flag waved way more proudly.
 
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From Drew Reisinger, Buncombe Register of Deeds.

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1,425 volunteers — managed by a team of hundreds of volunteers — through the Family Assistance Center at the Buncombe Co. Register of Deeds deployed to check on 10,493 high priority households with 2,000+ care packages distributed. 7,491 of our neighbors confirmed safe and sound by volunteers, and via email and text, as of Thursday, October 3, 2024. More volunteers needed to assist in welfare checks of high priority households. Volunteers, please report from 10:00 am to 4:00 pm at 205 College St., Asheville, NC 28801. Donations of food, water, toiletries, baby formula, dog food, etc. can be dropped off, as well.

Today’s Good News

Sixteen members of the Gastonia, North Carolina, SWAT team assisted in welfare checks throughout Swannanoa and Black Mountain.

Katie, from our Remote Data Team while confirming "safe and sounds," sent the following email. She writes, "I spoke with a man yesterday who had submitted a loved one's name for the welfare checks. He said he was a first responder in NJ and had been so impressed by the organization and coordinated response by the Family Assistance Center. He and many others expressed their gratitude and relief. I just wanted to pass the message along and thank you all for making such a huge impact."

thehumankatie on Instagram, an Asheville native, recently retired as a stripper but is coming out of retirement to raise funds to support relief efforts.

My favorite thing that happened today was that we started the Flush Brigade! There is a festering public health problem our community must take serious. This team helped flush every toilet in Aston Towers, Terrace Apartments, Klondike and Maple Crest. It's a shitty job, but you get to be a flushing hero.”
 
mpaer said:
In Buncombe County, N.C., where an entire town disappeared beneath floodwaters, less than 1 percent of households had flood insurance. In Unicoi County, Tenn., where dozens of residents were stranded atop a hospital roof as waters rose, it was under 2 percent.
This does not work. I will be the first to say building Houses in Flood Zones does not work either
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Without knowing the details of those areas, I will first say I’m not surprised. Second I will say that I initially doubt that the houses were built on a flood plain and didn’t carry flood insurance. The rocky river backs up to my property line I. Cabarrus county. I live on a hill and am probably a good 40 feet or more above the river level. I had to have flood insurance initially when I purchased the house because one small corner of the original lot before construction was on a 100 year flood plain.

The likelihood is these people were NOT in a 100 or even 500 year flood plain. Remember that they are saying this was a 1000 year flood event. Typically, paying flood insurance for a house outside of a 100 year flood plain is a waster of money.
 
donbosco said:
thehumankatie on Instagram, an Asheville native, recently retired as a stripper but is coming out of retirement to raise funds to support relief efforts.
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ZZLP, I think I’ve figured out how we can do our part to help after this terrible disaster.
 
CLT Heel said:
Without knowing the details of those areas, I will first say I’m not surprised. Second I will say that I initially doubt that the houses were built on a flood plain and didn’t carry flood insurance. The rocky river backs up to my property line I. Cabarrus county. I live on a hill and am probably a good 40 feet or more above the river level. I had to have flood insurance initially when I purchased the house because one small corner of the original lot before construction was on a 100 year flood plain.

The likelihood is these people were NOT in a 100 or even 500 year flood plain. Remember that they are saying this was a 1000 year flood event. Typically, paying flood insurance for a house outside of a 100 year flood plain is a waster of money.
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Exactly. There's no food zone mapped for 1000 year events. They do Zone AE where you must have insurance, and that's 100 year (for mapped streams).

You can check online DFIRM data to see . ..I will look up Asheville later.

Some places have 500 year boundaries mapped but most don't... But insurance isn't required there. I would have it though, if I were in anything close to a zone ae these days
 
My neighbor in 7D said she took supplies up to 7D earlier this week. I assume she took Tynecastle from 105 but didn’t confirm; she did say that at the time they had built a temporary land bridge where a bridge had washed out. But the land bridge started to become unsafe for car traffic while she was up there and they closed the road again. Took her the rest of the day to inch back some back ways (and ate a good bit of gas when she couldn’t refuel).

Anyway, she said there was nonstop helicopter traffic overhead while she was there (and there was nonstop helicopter traffic over 7D while I was there on Wednesday).

 
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