I do want conservatives on here

Kraftyheel89 said:
I forget which Pub said it, but he said it best. "we need to be more inclusive. we look like a group of old white men, the Dems look America.
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It takes work to broaden a coalition of diverse voters.
It takes compromise and introspection.
It takes genuine concern for your constituents' needs and wants. (see: Biden, Joseph)

In a democracy, even one like ours, the popularity of your ideas should be what drives voters to cast their ballots for your side. The last few cycles, pubs have no doubt looked at the electorate, looked at their principles/ideas, saw the writing on the wall, and instead of trying to win over new voters, they got behind the demagogic autocrat while the getting was good.

Enabling a wannabe dictator from your party is easier than convincing voters honestly that your ideas are best for the country. By and large, the GOP are lazy cowards.
 
Heard the news today about ZZLP closing, went to the site to see if it's true and saw site mentioned. Crazy stuff, but most of the old Scout political forums had long since closed down. Biggest was probably the Oregon Woodshed. I always assumed it was just too much of a PITA for mods to keep control.
 
ZenMode said:
Heard the news today about ZZLP closing, went to the site to see if it's true and saw site mentioned. Crazy stuff, but most of the old Scout political forums had long since closed down. Biggest was probably the Oregon Woodshed. I always assumed it was just too much of a PITA for mods to keep control.
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This is SO much better.
 
The creation of this forum and my passion to get it set up can be directly traced to how annoyed I became over the years posting on 247 forums.

All of you quality posters, and the others out there, absolutely taken for granted by whoever is in charge of 247.
 
Rock, just out of curiosity, are you a programmer or web developer by trade? I know you used a base system, but all the amount of tweaking and time you have spent is truly amazing.

We need to keep supporting you in this. Thanks again!
 
ZenMode said:
Heard the news today about ZZLP closing, went to the site to see if it's true and saw site mentioned. Crazy stuff, but most of the old Scout political forums had long since closed down. Biggest was probably the Oregon Woodshed. I always assumed it was just too much of a PITA for mods to keep control.
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That is a fantastic zen circle

Reminds me of the one I see a lot in the Kwan um school, where most of my unlearing has come from
 
There are other threads on which to discuss “undecided voters”.
That topic has nothing to do with whether or not we want conservatives on this board. Stay on topic please.

Yes, some reasonable minded, classic conservatives like those who make up the Lincoln Project are more than welcome here.

Those idiot trolls from the last month on the old ZZLP, not so much.

Which brings us to BankerMatt. He seems to have stumbled his way in here. HIT THE IGNORE BUTTON ON HIM ASAP. DO NOT ENGAGE. REPEAT: DO NOT ENGAGE.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
If you really believe this, do you get concerned when you see a poll that says (for illustration):

Harris 48%
Trump 47%
Undecided 5%
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Of course it concerns me. I just recall how George Carlin famously said, “Think of how stupid the average person is and realize half of them are stupider than that” and resign myself to living with the consequences.
 
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