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theres no winning side in all this vile division but both sides are too controlled to see it
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I'm sure there is waste, fraud, and abuse in government. I support efforts to minimize and eliminate it. That isn't what trump, musk and the doge bros are doing.I am truly shocked by people who are so blinded by partisanship that they have blind trust in the same media sources who admittedly deceived them over and over. Only a blind, dumb fool would believe there is no, or little amount of fraud and abuse in our G’ment spending. That anyone would support that or decry efforts to identify and eliminate it is partisanship at its worst and those people shouldn’t be taken seriously.
I'm sure there is waste, fraud, and abuse in government. I support efforts to minimize and eliminate it. That isn't what trump, musk and the doge bros are doing.Head scratcher. Trump/Musk have painted the libs/media into defending government inefficiencies/fraud and general guardians of the stats quos. Another 80/20 issue that they’re on the losing side.
How does it feel knowing that you are always going to be the biggest loser? You may feel like your stance assures you of never being wrong but you're never going to be right, either. Looks like a chickenshit way to live to me. I guess if you're happy, then I'm good. Otoh, I'm seriously bored with your public mental onanism.theres no winning side in all this vile division but both sides are too controlled to see it
I don’t think “the libs/media” are “defending government inefficiencies” and I certainly don’t think they’re defending fraud. I don’t think anyone of any political persuasion thinks that outright fraud or blatant wasteful spending by government is okay.Head scratcher. Trump/Musk have painted the libs/media into defending government inefficiencies/fraud and general guardians of the stats quos. Another 80/20 issue that they’re on the losing side.
But Musk does give a fuck. So much so that he continuously lies about their “findings.” Does the fact that Musk is lying and that the solution for the “fraud and inefficiency” he “finds” always includes a consulting contract with a Musk company? Gullible.I hear what you're saying about the proper "process" but we've tried that before (committees, blue ribbon panels) and it's failed or got bogged down in the bureaucratic swamp. We need this out of the box approach of a genius billionaire who doesn't give a f**k, with his tech bro assistants. Are they a bull in a china shop, probably, but I'll defer to them until I see that they've committed some real offenses - like leaking personal information everyone is so concerned about (although you weren't concerned when the personal information was Trump's tax returns).
I truly don’t even have the slightest clue what you’re talking about with regard to Trump‘s tax returns, so that statement does not apply to me. Otherwise, fair points on what you said above. We shall soon see which method is better – the slash and burn method, or the systematic methodical method. I certainly have my opinion as to which is better, but my opinion doesn’t matter, because it’s going to play out how it’s going to play out regardless. My hope is that you and I and people that we love and care about are not harmed in the process.I hear what you're saying about the proper "process" but we've tried that before (committees, blue ribbon panels) and it's failed or got bogged down in the bureaucratic swamp. We need this out of the box approach of a genius billionaire who doesn't give a f**k, with his tech bro assistants. Are they a bull in a china shop, probably, but I'll defer to them until I see that they've committed some real offenses - like leaking personal information everyone is so concerned about (although you weren't concerned when the personal information was Trump's tax returns).
I certainly have my opinion as to which is better, but my opinion doesn’t matter, because it’s going to play out how it’s going to play out regardless. My hope is that you and I and people that we love and care about are not harmed in the process.
400 probationary employees of the FAA were fired (none traffic controllers) out of 45,000 employees of the FAA so let's not overreact. I admit I don't understand the rationale for all of these firings (outside of DEI administrators) but I'm definitely in favor of substantially reducing the federal workforce through better technology and better productivity.
I was referring to the IRS leaking Trump's tax returns to Rachel Maddow and she and her audience were absolutely giddy in examining them for weeks on end.
If he has that much money, he must be smart and moral. Right?Some folks need to learn a lot more about musk. I’m continually baffled by pub willingness to create superheroes out of the rich, merely for their richness.
Musk hasn’t shown genius in any aspect of his wealth building, aside from self promotion, myth building, and getting rich off government subsidies. His original online payment site got swept up in the dot com boom and was poorly coded, he bought Tesla at a time government was dumping billions into renewables, space x was propped up for decades, boring company is a clown show. He started with millions in backing, to begin. I’m not going to deny that millions of people like Tesla vehicles, but musk literally appropriated other people’s patents. He is a cynical and sadistic corporatist that has propped up by our collective billions. Nothing, and I mean nothing, that he’s done is new or would’ve failed to come to pass if not for musk. He’s ruthless, he’s antisocial, he’s a myth maker, he’s not a genius, just like Bezos, Zuck, etc ain’t either.
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as discussed in the other thread.If he has that much money, he must be smart and moral. Right?