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Much like they talk about their wives and children.I'm going to say that bringing up people's care for their pets in response to a drive-by statement about the cruelty of conservatism vis-a-vis random animals on the street is little more than a non sequitur. Conservatism as an ideology is defined by the difference between how one thinks and cares about those close to them versus everybody else; that was the whole point that seemingly went over your head.
But you do open an interesting line of thought - In my own personal experience, liberals and left-leaning people are much more likely to talk about their pets as part of their family; you might not be able to tell whether one of them is talking about a child or an animal. I don't think that's true on the other side of the aisle; I find that the conservatives I know talk about their pets like they talk about their cars: particularly prized possessions that enrich their lives, but not entities with personalities.
I can't agree. One of the major political parties in the country has abandoned the notion of a shared reality and considers the antagonizing of the other side as preferable to policy or discourse.I've seen it happen often that people label those with views they disagree with as "trolling." It's like some kind of coping mechanism or something. The word is used *way* too often IMO.
And let’s not think for a moment a dog on a short leash, kept out on a chain with a cheap plastic doghouse for it’s only shelter in the heat of the summer and in the dead of winter is owned by anything other than a Maga piece of shit for a human being. Sure, that Maga piece of shit may bemoan their “pet” at its passing. But let’s not think for a minute that Maga gives 2 shits about much of any other living creature, human
Though it might seem like they are deliberately being antagonizing (being trolls), I suspect this is actually how they think, puzzling though we might find it.I can't agree. One of the major political parties in the country has abandoned the notion of a shared reality and considers the antagonizing of the other side as preferable to policy or discourse.
What would you call a poster who did that?
By "these groups" do you mean the United States Supreme Court? Because that's who interpreted/interprets the act to include ALL endangered animals, no matter how seemingly insignificant. I quote from TVA v. Hill, a case that you should know but obviously don't.This Act has been misused by environmentalists for stopping or delaying development. These groups have taken extreme positions on enforcement of the Act. That is the point of the changes to the ESA NOT any hatred of animals.
These have been refuted at ad nauseum. You only make arguments like these because of liberalism failed ideologies. Until you quit boxing people into your worldview you'll always be stuck in your strawman arguments. You've probably around plenty of conservatives and had a good time and never felt threatened or harmed.Of course Maga can care for their immediate family and pets. And they can empathize with them and their plights. But go beyond that. How empathetic are they towards the planet? Towards those who can’t help themselves? To innocent animals, plants, birds and bees… to Mother Nature as a whole? How about migrants in Central and Souh America fleeing their homelands and fleeing their own authoritarian dictators, fleeing for their very lives… headed towards the “land of the free, the home of the brave”… headed toward the Statue of Liberty… give us your tired your poor… How empathetic is Maga in that regard?
Let’s not mince words here… let’s not conflate Maga with old school GOP conservatives like Colin Powell and John McCain.
Don’t mix up Maga with the Conservatives on this board who see the light and have disavowed trump and Maga.
And let’s not think for a moment a dog on a short leash, kept out on a chain with a cheap plastic doghouse for it’s only shelter in the heat of the summer and in the dead of winter is owned by anything other than a Maga piece of shit for a human being. Sure, that Maga piece of shit may bemoan their “pet” at its passing. But let’s not think for a minute that Maga gives 2 shits about much of any other living creature, human or otherwise.
These sonsabitches think Nazis are good, slavery was ok, separate but equal was great! What does anyone think “Make America Great Again” actually means? For them it means to go back to they way it was before Civil Rights, Equal Rights, Women’s suffrage.
Did you not read this part: "Don’t mix up Maga with the Conservatives on this board who see the light and have disavowed trump and Maga."This has been refuted at ad nauseum
These have been refuted at ad nauseum. You only make arguments like these because of liberalism failed ideologies. Until you quit boxing people into your worldview you'll always be stuck in your strawman arguments. You've probably around plenty of conservatives and had a good time and never felt threatened or harmed.
Twelve years ago was 2013.Did you not read this part: "Don’t mix up Maga with the Conservatives on this board who see the light and have disavowed trump and Maga."
He's not talking about normal conservatives, he's talking about the cult.
Many of us were conservative for years. I voted republican in every presidential election until trump. There was no way I was voting for that idiot. The republican party is not what it was just a dozen years ago.
Yes, it was shifting, but going into the primaries no one expected the orange turn to be the candidate. There were others that year that I probably would have voted for, when trump became the candidate I knew the party had moved too far. Trump is just a bad person and it is sad that people can overlook that.Twelve years ago was 2013.
The Tea Party (a.k.a.; MAGA, Trumplican) had taken over the GOP in 2010.
No.MAGA is the Tea Party with the cream skimmed off and left to sour.
I can't agree. One of the major political parties in the country has abandoned the notion of a shared reality and considers the antagonizing of the other side as preferable to policy or discourse.
What would you call a poster who did that?
Empathetic but generally less so than Democrats.Of course Maga can care for their immediate family and pets. And they can empathize with them and their plights. But go beyond that. How empathetic are they towards the planet?
Empathetic but generally less so than Democrats.Towards those who can’t help themselves?
Empathetic but generally less so than Democrats.To innocent animals, plants, birds and bees… to Mother Nature as a whole?
Empathetic but generally less so than Democrats.How about migrants in Central and Souh America fleeing their homelands and fleeing their own authoritarian dictators, fleeing for their very lives… headed towards the “land of the free, the home of the brave”… headed toward the Statue of Liberty… give us your tired your poor… How empathetic is Maga in that regard?
Some Republicans are more empathetic than others, yes.Let’s not mince words here… let’s not conflate Maga with old school GOP conservatives like Colin Powell and John McCain.
That doesn't mean those conservatives are going to be as empathetic as most Dems on most topics. Political views between parties are general a different of degrees, not extremes.Don’t mix up Maga with the Conservatives on this board who see the light and have disavowed trump and Maga.
I'd be surprised if mistreatment of animals is tied to one party. Dog fighting is brutal and probably not common among Republicans.And let’s not think for a moment a dog on a short leash, kept out on a chain with a cheap plastic doghouse for it’s only shelter in the heat of the summer and in the dead of winter is owned by anything other than a Maga piece of shit for a human being.
Unfounded hyperbole.Sure, that Maga piece of shit may bemoan their “pet” at its passing. But let’s not think for a minute that Maga gives 2 shits about much of any other living creature, human or otherwise.
{Visible confusion}These sonsabitches think Nazis are good, slavery was ok, separate but equal was great!
What does anyone think “Make America Great Again” actually means? For them it means to go back to they way it was before Civil Rights, Equal Rights, Women’s suffrage.
I figured you would weigh in on this one. Maga lacks the natural ability to empathize with the other. However, I won’t cross swords with you on this. You go ahead and draw your petty conclusions as I’ve drawn mine.This has been refuted at ad nauseum
These have been refuted at ad nauseum. You only make arguments like these because of liberalism failed ideologies. Until you quit boxing people into your worldview you'll always be stuck in your strawman arguments. You've probably around plenty of conservatives and had a good time and never felt threatened or harmed.
Nice dodge.1/3 of the country?
And you want more of them to come shit all over this board?1/3 of the country?
Is it bad if 2/3rds of the country doesn't want to play in the same sandbox as the other 1/3rd?1/3 of the country?