I'm a former IC ZZL/P Mod = AMA

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It appears it's time to bump GT from the generic Ignore to the Super variety. He and the responses to him are taking up WAY too much space on this thread. I'm guessing he'll love his cozy new home with Calla & HY.
And this is where everybody is a moderator. I’ve tried the ignore thing… but the BS still seeps through. Super ignore allows one to “ban” a poster from your world. I was told early on by nyc simply: don’t respond or engage, then after that, hit ignore, then after that super ignore. Basically they want us to police the board ourselves. Yes, this will eventually turn this into the “dreaded echo chamber” …. But…. Oh well.
 
If it is offense to those people, then yes, you can avoid saying it. Saying it is abnormal is derogatory. And as others have pointed out, it's not the right term to use even when discussing biology anyway.
Reality doesn't change based on your audience. You may choose not to say xxxxx in front of a specific audience, but that's completely different. Again, on a forum that is dedicated to talking about politics, it's incredibly odd that someone would be banned for saying something is abnormal that actually IS abnormal....

I'll leave it at that. This is getting to the point of "beating a dead horse".
 
Normality/abnormality is a judgment, not a fact. To put it differently, there exists no X for which "X is abnormal" is a statement of fact, outside of the context of medical jargon which is not ordinary language.

Words like unusual, rare, and different can all be given factual meaning. Not normal/abnormal. That will always be a judgment.
 
i don't think the perpetrator has been identified but someone on IC premium screenshotted Bwall posts with intel about recruiting and posted them on a free bleacher report message board.
I did get a chuckle from this reply in the thread on IC: "It's really messed up what people will do these days. Some jerk at CNN screenshotted a bunch of my posts at Nude Africa, though he attributed them to some other guy."
 
Reality doesn't change based on your audience. You may choose not to say xxxxx in front of a specific audience, but that's completely different. Again, on a forum that is dedicated to talking about politics, it's incredibly odd that someone would be banned for saying something is abnormal that actually IS abnormal....

I'll leave it at that. This is getting to the point of "beating a dead horse".
The problem here is that you don't understand what the term "abnormal" means.
 
Again, the normal state for mammals is that one gender is attracted to the other.
One of your errors that you keep repeating here is not realizing you've arbitrarily decided the single trait in mammals that determines something you call "normal" should be their "gender attraction". Both the "normal/abnormal" label you've described and the decision to force a binary evaluation of gender attraction on all humans are completely random and subjective measuring sticks that you've concocted out of thin air that I would guess are not supported by anyone with any expertise in human biology. And then to stand back and label that hodgepodge "fact" to circumvent any guilt of bigotry is a case study in willful ignorance.
 
I did get a chuckle from this reply in the thread on IC: "It's really messed up what people will do these days. Some jerk at CNN screenshotted a bunch of my posts at Nude Africa, though he attributed them to some other guy."
yep, that was one hell of a reply. infinite upvotes.
 
The problem here is that you don't understand what the term "abnormal" means.
abnormal
adjective
ab·nor·mal (ˌ)ab-ˈnȯr-məl əb-
Synonyms of abnormal
: deviating from the normal or average
a person with abnormal [=exceptional] strength
abnormal powers of concentration
 
abnormal
adjective
ab·nor·mal (ˌ)ab-ˈnȯr-məl əb-
Synonyms of abnormal
: deviating from the normal or average
a person with abnormal [=exceptional] strength
abnormal powers of concentration
shocking that you left out the second part of the merriam webster definition...."often : unusual in an unwelcome or problematic way"

and per oxford:
ab·nor·mal
/abˈnôrm(ə)l/
adjective
deviating from what is normal or usual, typically in a way that is undesirable or worrying.
 
shocking that you left out the second part of the merriam webster definition...."often : unusual in an unwelcome or problematic way"

and per oxford:
ab·nor·mal
/abˈnôrm(ə)l/
adjective
deviating from what is normal or usual, typically in a way that is undesirable or worrying.
That additional entry doesn't change the portion I posted, though I would be worried, as would you, if the population of the world suddenly switched places as far as attraction is concerned, because it would put the survival of human beings at risk.
 
"Abnormal" is not an appropriate way to refer to most groups of people and particularly protected groups, but the question again is whether one should get a permaban for doing so. The moderating was heavy handed for some, barely existent for others, and arbitrary in its enforcement. And the main argument I'm hearing for the moderating is "I got ten warnings and I deserved every one of them" when some of us didn't even get one. That's not a good argument.
 
I didn't realize gay people couldn't procreate. Learn something new every day...
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that's 95% of the world is straight and 5% is gay. If those two groups switch places, do you think birth rates would increase, decrease or remain unchanged?
 
I thank Snoop for what he did on the old board and for what he has done with this thread - draw out from the shadows previously banned posters whom I really don't care to hear from again.

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Agreed!

Also, I didn’t realize snoop moderated for SEVEN years! That’s some work right there! Thanks, snoop!
 

Look dude I was banned right after the post so it didn't go to some committee, and your name is sitting right there on one of the posts deleting my post. So you were on duty. I can't say with certainty whether you made the initial call or what but you were in on it in some capacity. At least you admit I was never contacted by anyone and not put in the ban thread. The reality is all the policies and procedures you refer to on this thread are a load of crap. I'm not holding a grudge, It's not like a had some legacy as a poster on there and you can get right back on. But if a thread about ZZLP moderating comes up yes I'm going to say my piece and tell what happened in my instance.
You were banned immediately while the mods would have sorted out what was going on with you. My entire contribution to that thread was to edit one post after yours and, at this point, there's no way to tell how long after the immediate event my edit occurred. I wasn't a participant on that thread and I wasn't the one who put in the ban for you. And given where I was in my personal life at that point, I probably wasn't involved enough to ensure that you got a PM or that the ban thread was updated properly. But I've already said that we erred there. I was probably involved in some discussion about your ban, although what my contribution might have been has been lost to time.

But given that the 3 posts after yours were...

Zooview: "Really? You want to write that? Really?"

WaynetheDrain: "He's going out in a blaze of stupidity."

sunnyheel: "Transphobia - it's what's happening"

...I'm guessing whatever you said was clearly transphobic (especially since your two previous posts supporting Chappelle on that thread were left untouched, so it wasn't merely your views but whatever specific thing you said that got you a ban) and you were moderated for it.

So, in the case that you apparently went full transphobic and said something clearly over the line, I have no issue with the fact you were banned with no warnings and no appeal. While I don't know exactly what you said, judging from the thread the ban was fairly clearly valid. I do hate you didn't get a PM and your ban didn't get added to the ban thread and the lack of those are duly noted. Of course, had you not immediately followed your ban by PM'ing me insulting me and later followed up with threats, you might have been able to get a reasoned response and explanation.

So, we'll note that in your case you didn't receive the customary PM and ban thread note. And that you were almost certainly justifiably banned for being transphobic.

I hope you're able to overcome this terrible saga to go on to live a normal life.
 
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that's 95% of the world is straight and 5% is gay. If those two groups switch places, do you think birth rates would increase, decrease or remain unchanged?
The Spartans did pretty well. A basic understanding of sex and economics and a less polarized view of sexuality might work wonders.

You could easily make the case that, since numbers isn't the path to wealth, power and security that it once was, population growth is undesirable anyway.
 
abnormal
adjective
ab·nor·mal (ˌ)ab-ˈnȯr-məl əb-
Synonyms of abnormal
: deviating from the normal or average
a person with abnormal [=exceptional] strength
abnormal powers of concentration
And normal is a judgment. It is not a perfect synonym for "most common." You've dug in so far on this point that you will never retreat, but the word you're looking for is atypical. Abnormal is just wrong.
 
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