I'm a former IC ZZL/P Mod = AMA

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Turd Ferguson said:
Or you could just not say it's abnormal because it's a decent thing to do if you actually care about those that are not straight. Also, homosexuality is a part of biology. Maybe it's in the minority, but that doesn't mean it's abnormal.
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So, saying what is true means you don't care about an entire category of people? Nice.
 
dcf2 said:
Mostly as a bat signal to bum...

Group selection for homosexuality as a counter to sexual selection decreasing overall group fecundity seem very likely. Under this model absence of homosexual individuals in a population would be abnormal.
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You know, you are all seriously confused. Reproduction is about biology and all that stuff. Sex is about emotion and it's no damned body's else business.*

*Typical age and consent disclaimer.
 
ZenMode said:
So, saying what is true means you don't care about an entire category of people? Nice.

The funny thing is that Democrats just don't seem to be able to figure out why a piece of human excrement like Trump can't give their candidates a run for their money.
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If it is offense to those people, then yes, you can avoid saying it. Saying it is abnormal is derogatory. And as others have pointed out, it's not the right term to use even when discussing biology anyway.
 
UNCMSinLS said:
It appears it's time to bump GT from the generic Ignore to the Super variety. He and the responses to him are taking up WAY too much space on this thread. I'm guessing he'll love his cozy new home with Calla & HY.
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And this is where everybody is a moderator. I’ve tried the ignore thing… but the BS still seeps through. Super ignore allows one to “ban” a poster from your world. I was told early on by nyc simply: don’t respond or engage, then after that, hit ignore, then after that super ignore. Basically they want us to police the board ourselves. Yes, this will eventually turn this into the “dreaded echo chamber” …. But…. Oh well.
 
Turd Ferguson said:
If it is offense to those people, then yes, you can avoid saying it. Saying it is abnormal is derogatory. And as others have pointed out, it's not the right term to use even when discussing biology anyway.
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Reality doesn't change based on your audience. You may choose not to say xxxxx in front of a specific audience, but that's completely different. Again, on a forum that is dedicated to talking about politics, it's incredibly odd that someone would be banned for saying something is abnormal that actually IS abnormal....

I'll leave it at that. This is getting to the point of "beating a dead horse".
 
Normality/abnormality is a judgment, not a fact. To put it differently, there exists no X for which "X is abnormal" is a statement of fact, outside of the context of medical jargon which is not ordinary language.

Words like unusual, rare, and different can all be given factual meaning. Not normal/abnormal. That will always be a judgment.
 
4thgenheel said:
i don't think the perpetrator has been identified but someone on IC premium screenshotted Bwall posts with intel about recruiting and posted them on a free bleacher report message board.
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I did get a chuckle from this reply in the thread on IC: "It's really messed up what people will do these days. Some jerk at CNN screenshotted a bunch of my posts at Nude Africa, though he attributed them to some other guy."
 
ZenMode said:
Reality doesn't change based on your audience. You may choose not to say xxxxx in front of a specific audience, but that's completely different. Again, on a forum that is dedicated to talking about politics, it's incredibly odd that someone would be banned for saying something is abnormal that actually IS abnormal....

I'll leave it at that. This is getting to the point of "beating a dead horse".
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The problem here is that you don't understand what the term "abnormal" means.
 
ZenMode said:
Again, the normal state for mammals is that one gender is attracted to the other.
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One of your errors that you keep repeating here is not realizing you've arbitrarily decided the single trait in mammals that determines something you call "normal" should be their "gender attraction". Both the "normal/abnormal" label you've described and the decision to force a binary evaluation of gender attraction on all humans are completely random and subjective measuring sticks that you've concocted out of thin air that I would guess are not supported by anyone with any expertise in human biology. And then to stand back and label that hodgepodge "fact" to circumvent any guilt of bigotry is a case study in willful ignorance.
 
hedge said:
I did get a chuckle from this reply in the thread on IC: "It's really messed up what people will do these days. Some jerk at CNN screenshotted a bunch of my posts at Nude Africa, though he attributed them to some other guy."
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yep, that was one hell of a reply. infinite upvotes.
 
superrific said:
The problem here is that you don't understand what the term "abnormal" means.
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abnormal
adjective
ab·nor·mal (ˌ)ab-ˈnȯr-məl əb-
Synonyms of abnormal
: deviating from the normal or average
a person with abnormal [=exceptional] strength
abnormal powers of concentration
 
ZenMode said:
abnormal
adjective
ab·nor·mal (ˌ)ab-ˈnȯr-məl əb-
Synonyms of abnormal
: deviating from the normal or average
a person with abnormal [=exceptional] strength
abnormal powers of concentration
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shocking that you left out the second part of the merriam webster definition...."often : unusual in an unwelcome or problematic way"

and per oxford:
ab·nor·mal
/abˈnôrm(ə)l/
adjective
deviating from what is normal or usual, typically in a way that is undesirable or worrying.
 
4thgenheel said:
shocking that you left out the second part of the merriam webster definition...."often : unusual in an unwelcome or problematic way"

and per oxford:
ab·nor·mal
/abˈnôrm(ə)l/
adjective
deviating from what is normal or usual, typically in a way that is undesirable or worrying.
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That additional entry doesn't change the portion I posted, though I would be worried, as would you, if the population of the world suddenly switched places as far as attraction is concerned, because it would put the survival of human beings at risk.
 
"Abnormal" is not an appropriate way to refer to most groups of people and particularly protected groups, but the question again is whether one should get a permaban for doing so. The moderating was heavy handed for some, barely existent for others, and arbitrary in its enforcement. And the main argument I'm hearing for the moderating is "I got ten warnings and I deserved every one of them" when some of us didn't even get one. That's not a good argument.
 
hedge said:
I didn't realize gay people couldn't procreate. Learn something new every day...
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Let's say, for the sake of argument, that's 95% of the world is straight and 5% is gay. If those two groups switch places, do you think birth rates would increase, decrease or remain unchanged?
 
UNCMSinLS said:
I thank Snoop for what he did on the old board and for what he has done with this thread - draw out from the shadows previously banned posters whom I really don't care to hear from again.

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Agreed!

Also, I didn’t realize snoop moderated for SEVEN years! That’s some work right there! Thanks, snoop!
 
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