I'm a former IC ZZL/P Mod = AMA

[SnoopRob]

Watching these previously banned posters owning themselves is the finest moment yet of the new zzlp, Thank You.

The part that's most interesting to me is that all 3 of the ones bitching and moaning about being banned have each done a really convincing job of showing what got them banned.

 

[UNCatTech]

Nobody is crying about shit you clown ass idiot. We're merely pointing out the fact that his moderation style is highly suggestive of certain unfulfilled psychological needs. And we're doing so in a thread he started about moderation. So maybe you should stop crying about people who are not crying.

May I suggest that you put "ass" before "clown"? It just flows better.

Just kidding man, don't beat me.

 

[LosPollosHermanos]

You were banned immediately while the mods would have sorted out what was going on with you. My entire contribution to that thread was to edit one post after yours and, at this point, there's no way to tell how long after the immediate event my edit occurred. I wasn't a participant on that thread and I wasn't the one who put in the ban for you. And given where I was in my personal life at that point, I probably wasn't involved enough to ensure that you got a PM or that the ban thread was updated properly. But I've already said that we erred there. I was probably involved in some discussion about your ban, although what my contribution might have been has been lost to time.

But given that the 3 posts after yours were...

Zooview: "Really? You want to write that? Really?"

WaynetheDrain: "He's going out in a blaze of stupidity."

sunnyheel: "Transphobia - it's what's happening"

...I'm guessing whatever you said was clearly transphobic (especially since your two previous posts supporting Chappelle on that thread were left untouched, so it wasn't merely your views but whatever specific thing you said that got you a ban) and you were moderated for it.

So, in the case that you apparently went full transphobic and said something clearly over the line, I have no issue with the fact you were banned with no warnings and no appeal. While I don't know exactly what you said, judging from the thread the ban was fairly clearly valid. I do hate you didn't get a PM and your ban didn't get added to the ban thread and the lack of those are duly noted. Of course, had you not immediately followed your ban by PM'ing me insulting me and later followed up with threats, you might have been able to get a reasoned response and explanation.

So, we'll note that in your case you didn't receive the customary PM and ban thread note. And that you were almost certainly justifiably banned for being transphobic.

I hope you're able to overcome this terrible saga to go on to live a normal life.

You can look at my post history there and tell full well that I'm not transphobic, but the visceral need for instant message board power gratification overcame someone. Again, there was no communication with me at all (you don't deny that). And I already told you what I said. I said some of the people upset over the Chapelle special need to get a set of balls. And it doesn't surprise me that some people on the ZZLP would get all bent out of shape about that. But it was an obvious joke. If it missed the mark, fine. Communicate. Delete it. The banning was a pussy move, period. And it was very typical. I love that someone (probably you) put that the ban was for a transphobic comment without even stating what it was. I guess they were covering their ass if it went up to the PTB you speak of, or if it unexpectedly came up 8 years later on a message board.

Anyway, I've made my point. Things over there are not what you say they were. I think the place was moderated poorly and I'm done calling you out. I'm sure your little cheerleaders over here like the one you warned ten times without banning will get you through the saga too, even if they resemble a dook squad.

 

[UNCatTech]

The part that's most interesting to me is that all 3 of the ones bitching and moaning about being banned have each done a really convincing job of showing what got them banned.

No, you are just biased.

I can never forgive you for editing my post. They were so important, they would have changed the world, or something, I'm sure of it.

 

[Centerpiece]

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I will say this as a former IC moderator...the super ignore feature is a game-changer in terms of balancing the needs of the community vs the "right" of posters to say crummy things.

If everyone can completely ignore posters they don't want to read and find problematic, it does decrease the need to remove those folks for "the good of the board".

I'm glad that functionality exists, because if a particular poster gets bad enough, the majority of posters will likely just super ignore that poster and the problem will be solved without an actual ban being issued.

This^^^
Let’s just say jacket pisses enough people off - maybe 90%+ of the board - and ALL hit him with super ignore… then he essentially doesn’t even exist. Essentially banned from the board and mods didn’t do squat. So in 20 years when Rock retires this board, and he gets on the next board reincarnation and says “what up peeps?” Jacket can get on there and bitch and moan to him: “Dude! Your stupid board banned me for no reason!”

Now, I don’t even have jacket on ignore, yet, but I’m thinking he has me on ignore. Either that or he is utilizing nyc’s first level of defense: don’t respond/don’t engage with me

 

[gtyellowjacket]

Just thankful he isn’t a mod here.

Oh thank God. This place is so much better and I think Snoop not having his little petty tyranny anymore to make up for the other deficiencies in his life is a big part of it.

 

[SnoopRob]

May I suggest that you put "ass" before "clown"? It just flows better.

Just kidding man, don't beat me.

I think ass clown is a noun, while clown-ass (it needs a hyphen) is an adjective.

So it seems he used it correctly.

 

[UNCatTech]

Yeah, but she's blind, so she's abnormal.

 

[NCK9]

I will say this as a former IC moderator...the super ignore feature is a game-changer in terms of balancing the needs of the community vs the "right" of posters to say crummy things.

If everyone can completely ignore posters they don't want to read and find problematic, it does decrease the need to remove those folks for "the good of the board".

I'm glad that functionality exists, because if a particular poster gets bad enough, the majority of posters will likely just super ignore that poster and the problem will be solved without an actual ban being issued.

isn’t that what the old Scout star system was intended to do? Except they could have made it like Reddit where negatively rated posts get buried

 

[korgguy1971]

Holy crap, I just checked 247 thinking I had saved a BA07 quote at one time, and it turns out that I had. I screen-capped this poast of his because I couldn't believe it. Hopefully you can read it and the resolution isn't terrible.... I'm doing this from my phone.

This kind of stuff was business as usual for BA07.

 

[UNCatTech]

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that's 95% of the world is straight and 5% is gay. If those two groups switch places, do you think birth rates would increase, decrease or remain unchanged?

You know, we really don't know.

The biological females could still have children, gay people have children all the time.

I'm not sure what this proves? We know that men are not yet getting pregnant, but who knows what evolution, science, and the future will bring.

If men could get pregnant, I believe we would have a whole different set of opinions about personal medical care.

 

[UNCatTech]

Holy crap, I just checked 247 thinking I had saved a BA07 quote at one time, and it turns out that I had. I screen-capped this poast of his because I couldn't believe it. Hopefully you can read it and the resolution isn't terrible.... I'm doing this from my phone.

This kind of stuff was business as usual for BA07.

Well, you are an exceptional member.

 

[UNCatTech]

Holy crap, I just checked 247 thinking I had saved a BA07 quote at one time, and it turns out that I had. I screen-capped this poast of his because I couldn't believe it. Hopefully you can read it and the resolution isn't terrible.... I'm doing this from my phone.

This kind of stuff was business as usual for BA07.

When you get a chance can you make it larger? For some reason it isn't opening like pictures usually ( I almost used normally there, but I believe I'm removing it from my vocabulary) do, and I cannot read it.

 

[korgguy1971]

When you get a chance can you make it larger? For some reason it isn't opening like pictures usually ( I almost used normally there, but I believe I'm removing it from my vocabulary) do, and I cannot read it.

Well crap. I was afraid of that TBH. When I get home, I'll try getting the better resolution JPEG from 247 on my laptop.

 

[nycfan]

 

[SnoopRob]

You can look at my post history there and tell full well that I'm not transphobic, but the visceral need for instant message board power gratification overcame someone. Again, there was no communication with me at all (you don't deny that). And I already told you what I said. I said some of the people upset over the Chapelle special need to get a set of balls. And it doesn't surprise me that some people on the ZZLP would get all bent out of shape about that. But it was an obvious joke. If it missed the mark, fine. Communicate. Delete it. The banning was a pussy move, period. And it was very typical. I love that someone (probably you) put that the ban was for a transphobic comment without even stating what it was. I guess they were covering their ass if it went up to the PTB you speak of, or if it unexpectedly came up 8 years later on a message board.

Anyway, I've made my point. Things over there are not what you say they were. I think the place was moderated poorly and I'm done calling you out. I'm sure your little cheerleaders over here like the one you warned ten times without banning will get you through the saga too, even if they resemble a dook squad.

The place where we listed a reason for someone's ban was fairly limited character-wise, so we almost never put actual posts/quotes in there. At the time, we would have recorded what specific post or posts that drew the ban was, but the records for that time period are long gone by now.

Given that you admitted that you said on a thread about transgender folks that some people "need to grow a set of balls", I don't know why anyone would find you transphobic. It is certainly a mystery. You being banned for being a transphobe seems little more than the logical outcome of your posts.

You did find a place where our PM/ban thread note practices failed. If I had a ribbon or a cookie, I'd be glad to give it to you.

You've certainly made a point...that you managed to get banned twice on a message board by 2 different sets of moderators, that you made a pretty obviously transphobic post, that you reacted poorly to at least the second ban, and that you've held a grudge for considerable number of years. So you've proven that you're a shitty poster with poor emotional regulation. Congrats on your achievement.

 

[SnoopRob]

No, you are just biased.

I can never forgive you for editing my post. They were so important, they would have changed the world, or something, I'm sure of it.

Some folks create genius works, others of us merely ruin those works.

We all have to play our part.

 

[SnoopRob]

isn’t that what the old Scout star system was intended to do? Except they could have made it like Reddit where negatively rated posts get buried

I think so, but it basically led to unpopular posts getting downvoted rather than being any real reflection of quality.

Unfortunately, crowd-voting rarely works well. I've seen plenty of times on Reddit that it works quite poorly.

 

[hedge]

If everyone can completely ignore posters they don't want to read and find problematic, it does decrease the need to remove those folks for "the good of the board".

And for the good of the bored... <points at Norm>...

 

[ICFree]

ZM is so obviously a ben shapiro fan boi.