I'm a former IC ZZL/P Mod = AMA

[SnoopRob]

First, I want to report that Mr. and Ms. sunnyheel have evacuated our St. Petersburg home for higher ground following a grueling exercise in storm prep anticipating the worst case scenario and with the wreckage of Helene fresh in our minds and mostly still in our neighborhoods.

I wanted to separately say that I'm glad that you and the Ms. have gotten to safety in advance of Milton and I hope things are ok for you after Helene.

 

[ZenMode]

How are you defining normal? on average 10% of people are left handed, does this mean that they are abnormal? Or does it mean that there are variations of humans and not one "Normal" human?

There are 9 billion people in the world, no two are exactly the same, which one is the normal one that we are all supposed to be like?

Using eyes as an example, there's a whole spectrum of abilities to see. Why do we need to define any one as "normal" and say that everyone else is "abnormal", why does that matter? Can't they simply be different? I've read that more people need vision correction than do not, does this mean that normal is not being able to see 20/20? In this example, I would define 20/20 as ideal or the target, not normal. What about eye color, which one is normal? Blue, brown? There are so many variations.

Normal is a concept. We simply choose to define something as normal if the majority fit into that category. There isn't really a normal.

The problem is that so many use that concept to be hurtful to others for no reason.

I don't care if one states that a trans female isn't a biological female, it's technically true. But to say that there is something wrong with the person, which "Abnormal" asserts, isn't necessary and in some context is bigoted. Why can't we simply accept that people are different and just agree that everyone is pretty much seeking the same thing, a happy life filled with love and acceptance.

My opinion is that many people are mean for no reason, and I just don't understand the need. We need to get past the stupid arguments that many on the right are making in their war on anyone who isn't exactly like them and focus on how we can make the world better for everyone.

Then there's also evolution. However slow, we are changing and evolving, so if something were to change through evolution, which is normal, the old version or the new version?


I actually believe that in a functioning society sometimes it is true what you're saying is technically true, but you shouldn't say it because it just is mean and unnecessary. But I will not say that these things can never be said, rather that the context of them being said matters and should be considered.

There's a big difference in saying: "trans females are not biological females" vs saying "they are just freaks and abominations".

Two things can be true at the same time. It can be true that calling someone abnormal can be meant as a compliment or meant as an insult depending on the situation. Data shows that the Japanese have a higher IQ than white Europeans. In certain situations, that fact can be viewed as offensive or insulting, but the fact remains true.

The words normal and abnormal have definitions. There are biological realities of the two genders and how they intersect to continue their species. Based on the definition of words, and the biological realities of mammals, it can be true that homosexuality, from a biological stand point, meets the definition abnormal while heterosexuality meets the definition of normal.

 

[CFordUNC]

I'm not the one that started this thread. I'm not the one who fucking directly encouraged people to talk about moderating. I've never made any secret I thought he sucked there or here, but he started a fucking thread specifically to talk about moderating. So don't act like the poster who told him what he didn't want to hear is the one hung up on moderating. I mean he has admitted he was too big of a pussy to respond when I asked why I got banned when I never had a warning in five years? So I have kinda enjoyed watching him finally respond. But this thread isn't my baby. It belongs to the one that started it.

And you need to take a look at that poster who tried to bask in his perceived glory as a fucking message board moderator and then started a thread about it. That is the one who is obsessed with moderating, and trying to recapture the little piece of it he still needs by telling the world all about it.

I told what happened to me the exact way it happened. That's all I did and I left nothing out and it's true. Draw from it what you wish. I was banned with no warning or communication and I'm sure it happened to a lot of others who didn't stick around even though you got ten warnings and no bans. Some people will fall on his side and some may fall on mine. I don't care. But if he starts a thread about moderating I'm gonna tell people why I thought he sucked. People can make their own decisions about who is right. And the hardcore message board types can even get that little rush they get when they announce that they are ignoring someone.

Got it. Appreciate you taking time to respond and share your point of view. I truly don't have a "side" in this debate, other than the fact that I will candidly confess my bemusement for *anyone* (sincerely not directing this at you) who cares enough to get worked up over what is said and done on anonymous internet message board forums. And that goes for anyone, poster or moderator alike. I guess I just don't view any of this stuff as anything other than recreational bullshitting. But I understand and respect that others see it differently. Either way, I'll bow out and mind my own business now- I've stirred the pot enough.

 

[SnoopRob]

That's rich coming from a man who dropped the banhammer every time his emotions got the best of him.

And as to this supposed grudge - don't start an ego-driven thread about your own moderating without expecting some people to comment that they thought it sucked. You're the same insecure little banhammer dropping bitch you always were.

The idea you have of me as a mod versus the actuality is pretty funny. You, like gt before you, are absolutely killing that strawman, though, and I commend you for your victory.

I have no problem with the idea that you think my moderating sucked. I would fully expect that shitty posters who can't follow the rules and lack the self-awareness to investigate their own actions would instinctively blame the mods for their own shortcomings. What amuses me the most is that you've held these grudges for so long and they're so important to you. You've obviously spent years ruminating on these events and I had real no memory of them occurring until you brought them up and I had to go back to what information I could access to even have any idea what we're discussing.

In short...

 

[ZenMode]

Did you used to post as trhl777?

No

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Watching these previously banned posters owning themselves is the finest moment yet of the new zzlp, Thank You.

Reminds me of a post I made a few days ago in which I said the heart and soul of MAGA nation is resentment of liberals and anyone they perceive as snubbing them socially or looking down on them for any reason, and the last couple of weeks on the old IC ZZLP were proof positive of it. And it has obviously carried over here on this thread. Lots of clear Trumper pent-up resentment and anger boiling over.

 

[LosPollosHermanos]

Got it. Appreciate you taking time to respond and share your point of view. I truly don't have a "side" in this debate, other than the fact that I will candidly confess my bemusement for *anyone* (sincerely not directing this at you) who cares enough to get worked up over what is said and done on anonymous internet message board forums. And that goes for anyone, poster or moderator alike. I guess I just don't view any of this stuff as anything other than recreational bullshitting. But I understand and respect that others see it differently. Either way, I'll bow out and mind my own business now- I've stirred the pot enough.

Dude it's just not like that. It's more like when you see someone posting utter bullshit and think "Give me a fucking break". The fact that anyone puts their opinion out there and engages in the back and forth is basically what goes on in these places. It's a total cop out to then insinuate the one who responded to the thread he started about himslef is "hung up" or otherwise.

 

[Croatoan]

The idea you have of me as a mod versus the actuality is pretty funny. You, like gt before you, are absolutely killing that strawman, though, and I commend you for your victory.

I have no problem with the idea that you think my moderating sucked. I would fully expect that shitty posters who can't follow the rules and lack the self-awareness to investigate their own actions would instinctively blame the mods for their own shortcomings. What amuses me the most is that you've held these grudges for so long and they're so important to you. You've obviously spent years ruminating on these events and I had real no memory of them occurring until you brought them up and I had to go back to what information I could access to even have any idea what we're discussing.

In short...

Sometimes a mod. Sometimes a poaster. Always a twat.

 

[StrangePackage]

Holy crap, I just checked 247 thinking I had saved a BA07 quote at one time, and it turns out that I had. I screen-capped this poast of his because I couldn't believe it. Hopefully you can read it and the resolution isn't terrible.... I'm doing this from my phone.

This kind of stuff was business as usual for BA07.

Hey man you got any more of them pixels?

 

[LosPollosHermanos]

The idea you have of me as a mod versus the actuality is pretty funny. You, like gt before you, are absolutely killing that strawman, though, and I commend you for your victory.

I have no problem with the idea that you think my moderating sucked. I would fully expect that shitty posters who can't follow the rules and lack the self-awareness to investigate their own actions would instinctively blame the mods for their own shortcomings. What amuses me the most is that you've held these grudges for so long and they're so important to you. You've obviously spent years ruminating on these events and I had real no memory of them occurring until you brought them up and I had to go back to what information I could access to even have any idea what we're discussing.

In short...

Dude you pretty good at building strawmen too and pretending that someone could actually give a fuck about you or hold a grudge against you in any capicity. I don't know you from Adam's housecat and I could give a shit what you think of me, and I seriously doubt anyone on this planet does either. I said I never had a warning in five years as BillyRayPenny and that's an undisputed fact, but you go on about someone not following rules and nonsense as if I was acting anything like half the regulars on there you played favorites for. I have no grudge against you. I haven't thought about you in 8 years before I had the misfortune of recognizing you as a regular here. Really, I just want people to know you are completely full of bullshit with your mod stories.

ETA: And for those saying the people complaining here are right wingers, you can take a look at my post history here and my post history at the original ZZLP and clearly see I lean left. They could have taken the angle that they actually banned a lib if they even bothered to read my posts. My comment was clearly a tongue in cheek joke that was misinterpreted. Maybe I missed the mark but permaban with no communication - whatthefuckever.

 

[SnoopRob]

Sometimes a mod. Sometimes a poaster. Always a twat.

I have employees who work with the public to provide services and no matter how hard you work some folks will try to take advantage of what you do and then loudly complain when you refuse to be taken advantage of.

In those situations, I remind my staff, "Some folks compliment you when they speak well of you and some folks when they disparage you."

You being upset with me is certainly a compliment to me.

 

[BlooVooDoo]

You are right, I stopped using LosPollosHermanos in 2016 apparently because of a ban I don't remember and changed the name to BillyRayPenny. You banned me in 2021 because I said some of the people complaining about the Netflix Chapelle special should just get a set of balls. Maybe not in great taste but clearly a joke and nothing worthy of a first offense permaban. No communication at all and never put in ban thread. I had 1500+ posts since 2016 at that point and had no warnings at all on that account.

Assuming this is the post that earned the ban, it appears unc1012 deleted it. Unless snoop is sure he did it, I’d assume unc1012 banned you.

 

[SnoopRob]

Dude you pretty good at building strawmen too and pretending that someone could actually give a fuck about you or hold a grudge against you in any capicity. I don't know you from Adam's housecat and I could give a shit what you think of me, and I seriously doubt anyone on this planet does either. I said I never had a warning in five years as BillyRayPenny and that's an undisputed fact, but you go on about someone not following rules and nonsense as if I was acting anything like half the regulars on there you played favorites for. I have no grudge against you. I haven't thought about you in 8 years before I has tyhe misfortune of recognizing you as a regular here. Really, I just want people to know you are completely full of bullshit with your mod stories.

Says the poster who has taken multiple opportunities to attack me on this board about stuff that happened on another board even before I started this thread about IC moderation.

Speaking of being full of bullshit.

 

[UNCatTech]

Two things can be true at the same time. It can be true that calling someone abnormal can be meant as a compliment or meant as an insult depending on the situation. Data shows that the Japanese have a higher IQ than white Europeans. In certain situations, that fact can be viewed as offensive or insulting, but the fact remains true.

The words normal and abnormal have definitions. There are biological realities of the two genders and how they intersect to continue their species. Based on the definition of words, and the biological realities of mammals, it can be true that homosexuality, from a biological stand point, meets the definition abnormal while heterosexuality meets the definition of normal.

Do you see everything in the world this binary?

Again, I ask, who is the "Normal" person that we are all supposed to be like, since there are 9 billion variations of humans on this planet.

How do you combine the traits to make the normal one? Or can normal and abnormal only be used in a way to describe marginalized people?

Who is normal, the blue eyed man or the brown eyed man?

Love is not defined by procreation, any two drunk dumbasses can have a child in the right circumstances. There has to be a better way to describe the spectrum of human biology other than the binary words normal and abnormal.

But that's ok, if you want to maintain the strict definition of the two words, then you are correct.

But such a binary world has to be boring and limited.

 

[UNCatTech]

Assuming this is the post that earned the ban, it appears unc1012 deleted it. Unless snoop is sure he did it, I’d assume unc1012 banned you.

How in the world would did you find that? I couldn't ever find anything on those boards.

At one point I knew how to search the specific board using google, but that stopped working, so I resorted to saving threads that interested me.

Searching on IC sucked.

 

[UNCatTech]

Says the poster who has taken multiple opportunities to attack me on this board about stuff that happened on another board even before I started this thread about IC moderation.

Speaking of being full of bullshit.

You had to expect some of this when you started this thread.

Though it has been interested.

Toward the end, it was a wonder I didn't get banned, I was so sick of some of the maga bullshit.

 

[Croatoan]

I have employees who work with the public to provide services and no matter how hard you work some folks will try to take advantage of what you do and then loudly complain when you refuse to be taken advantage of.

In those situations, I remind my staff, "Some folks compliment you when they speak well of you and some folks when they disparage you."

You being upset with me is certainly a compliment to me.

Before you finish jerking yourself off, know that I’m not upset with you. You’re just a twat. Kinda like water is wet.

 

[SnoopRob]

You had to expect some of this when you started this thread.

Though it has been interested.

Toward the end, it was a wonder I didn't get banned, I was so sick of some of the maga bullshit.

Yeah, none of this has been terribly surprising. I thought that on the whole it would be fun.

And I hope it has been for most folks.

 

[SnoopRob]

Before you finish jerking yourself off, know that I’m not upset with you. You’re just a twat. Kinda like water is wet.

Yes, I also go out of my way to call folks I'm not upset with various insults.

 

[Zoo_View]

I'm not the one that started this thread. I'm not the one who fucking directly encouraged people to talk about moderating. I've never made any secret I thought he sucked there or here, but he started a fucking thread specifically to talk about moderating. So don't act like the poster who told him what he didn't want to hear is the one hung up on moderating. I mean he has admitted he was too big of a pussy to respond when I asked why I got banned when I never had a warning in five years? So I have kinda enjoyed watching him finally respond. But this thread isn't my baby. It belongs to the one that started it.

So you need to take a look at that poster who tried to bask in his perceived glory as a fucking message board moderator and then started a thread about it. That is the one who is obsessed with moderating, and trying to recapture the little piece of it he still needs by telling the world all about it. Not the one who made on-topic responses.

I told what happened to me the exact way it happened. That's all I did and I left nothing out and it's true. Draw from it what you wish. I was banned with no warning or communication and I'm sure it happened to a lot of others who didn't stick around even though you got ten warnings and no bans. Some people will fall on his side and some may fall on mine. I don't care. But if he starts a thread about moderating I'm gonna tell people why I thought he sucked. People can make their own decisions about who is right. And the hardcore message board types can even get that little rush they get when they announce that they are ignoring someone.

The chicken “doth protest too much, methinks.”