Iran Catch-All | US & ISRAEL ATTACK IRAN

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Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I don't see attacking Iran as an expensive, drawn out war. Iran did a little more than nothing in retaliation against Israel. There's no reason to believe they would be able to put up any kind of fight against the US.
It depends on what we see as the US strategy moving forward. If all we're going to do is lob missiles from far away, I would generally agree with you. If this requires actual US troops on the ground, we have plenty of recent experience (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc) that even a war against a country that has no real ability to "put up a fight" can be expensive and drawn out.
 
It depends on what we see as the US strategy moving forward. If all we're going to do is lob missiles from far away, I would generally agree with you. If this requires actual US troops on the ground, we have plenty of recent experience (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc) that even a war against a country that has no real ability to "put up a fight" can be expensive and drawn out.
That’s the conundrum. Lobbing missiles probably means few American deaths, but will accomplish nothing. Accomplishing something would require troops on the ground, which would be an absolute disaster. I truly think Trump thought this could be another Venezuela (the results of which are still very much up for grabs). It can’t.
 
Why? Genuinely curious.
Unlike other conservative posters here Calla has made some thoughtful posts, seems to genuinely understand that Trump is a crook and a liar (although he accepts it as the price for not having a Democrat in office) and has seemed open to persuasion on a few topics. In some ways he reminded me of Krafty before he finally had his epiphany.
 
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I assume orangeturd thought they had several major Iranian leaders-the ones at the top-targeted
Not sure he has a plan beyond that ? Maybe a vague dream of bringing one of Shah's family back ?
 
Unlike other conservative posters here Calla has made some thoughtful posts, seems to genuinely understand that Trump is crook and liar (although he accepts it as the price for not having a Democrat in office) and has seemed open to persuasion on a few topics. In some ways he reminded me of Krafty before he finally had his epiphany.
You’re talking about a poster who is convinced in his bones that immigrants kill rape and molest in significantly disproportionate numbers, and are the driver of the nation’s ills. Setting aside the way the country is built on the backs of immigrants, his misinformation on immigrant crime is staggering.

There’s nothing at all thoughtful about that. It’s brainwashing, sure… but it’s hateful and harmful and that will stick with him forever. Comparing him to other morally and intellectually challenged posters is lipstick on a pig.
 
You’re talking about a poster who is convinced in his bones that immigrants kill rape and molest in significantly disproportionate numbers, and are the driver of the nation’s ills. Setting aside the way the country is built on the backs of immigrants, his misinformation on immigrant crime is staggering.

There’s nothing at all thoughtful about that. It’s brainwashing, sure… but it’s hateful and harmful and that will stick with him forever. Comparing him to other morally and intellectually challenged posters is lipstick on a pig.
Hard to argue with that, but I'm an optimist at heart!
 
I suspect Iran's navy doesn't have to physically close the strait. Just threaten and the insurance rates will go up. Those tankers will stop. But I am sure Trump has a plan for that.
If the price of crude oil goes up, then into whose pockets does that extra money flow? Hint: Not my pockets.
 
Nah, my feelings on trump have zero influence on the world.

Didn't realize you were an expert on iran's nuclear capability and enrichment activities. Need to see some credentials before that comment can be believed.

History tells us that isn't the case.
The history of Israeli and US leaders constantly beating the drum that Iran is days or weeks away from a nuclear weapon yet they have never gotten there?
 
It depends on what we see as the US strategy moving forward. If all we're going to do is lob missiles from far away, I would generally agree with you. If this requires actual US troops on the ground, we have plenty of recent experience (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc) that even a war against a country that has no real ability to "put up a fight" can be expensive and drawn out.
And I think Iraq, Afghanistan had Zip compared to what Iran's army is
 
If the price of crude oil goes up, then into whose pockets does that extra money flow? Hint: Not my pockets.
You know, before it was about Iran's nuclear weapons but its pretty clear to Iran's leadership that this time Trump is coming for them. So item #1 on the Ayatollah's to do list would be to make the price of oil go up. But to your point, maybe someone should check recent option trading on oil futures.
 
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