Is MAGA MSG Rally the October Surprise?

[superrific]

Part of my response was aimed at super saying he’s never seen a comedian say things like that.

I once watched about the first 5-10 minutes of a Lisa Lampanelli show. It consisted of her articulating ethnic slurs and the audience cheering for them. No real jokes. It was more like a circle jerk in function.

But that's still miles from "piece of garbage." And I'm not going to dispute your contention that this is relatively mundane stuff -- how could I? I don't go to NYC comedy clubs -- but I don't think it's because I'm somehow sheltered. I would guess that the majority of Americans have not heard such a vile joke from a professional comedian.

 

[finesse]

This could matter on the fringes and that’s all that matters. With that said, humans are stupid so I wouldn’t count on it.

That's true if you consider every Puerto Rican on the fringe. After the hurricane response, this was heaping coals on their head. There are places in this nation where that could swing a state.

 

[nycfan]

Not the first time Trump has alerted media he is giving a press availability and used it for a free rally.







“… and she could look at the carnage and look at all the people that have been killed and you haven’t seen anything yet because they’ve just started, they’re just getting comfortable in our country these are very tough people …”

 

[Healing]

Nah that isn't Trump's plan. He doesn't give a crap beyond his own self-interested of being elected and having everyone call him a big strong popular awesome president. And I genuinely don't think he wants mass violence. It's the freaks like Bannon and Miller that want that stuff, and they may well be able to convince trump that it's needed for some reason.

Disagree on ttump. There’s a reason he did what he did on J6; it was ALL self interest. Agree on Bannon and Miller.

 

[uncsig]

Oh really, JD? Which party is it that is all about grievances all the fucking time? Tan suits? Grey Poupon? Basically every single night on Hannity, Watters, and Ingraham? FUCK YOU!!

 

[nycfan]

Trumps team indicated to media this would be a press conference and cover the coverage of his MSG rally. So far, another bait and switch. And telling that the way Trump is doubling down about offensive remarks about Americans from Puerto Rico is to go on a rant bout illegal immigration.

 

[nycfan]

 

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[duluoz]

But that's still miles from "piece of garbage." And I'm not going to dispute your contention that this is relatively mundane stuff -- how could I? I don't go to NYC comedy clubs -- but I don't think it's because I'm somehow sheltered. I would guess that the majority of Americans have not heard such a vile joke from a professional comedian.

Fair enough, that’s why I said I guess I can see it being a surprise. I’ve been to so many shows and listened to enough podcasts to know that, relatively, it was a tame (and unfunny) set.

Hinchcliffe is in Austin, and Austin in recent years has cultivated a comedy club scene leaning toward the right and headed by Rogan/Hinchcliffe and others. And consequently that scene is becoming notorious for walking that line between what some consider edgy comedy and what some consider hate speech/xenophobia/conspiracy etc. From what I’ve seen, that scene is not my thing.

But it’s always about context. What flies in an Austin club may bomb in SF, LA, NYC, Chicago, etc. And what flies in those places would still bomb at a major political event in front of a world audience. As we are seeing.

 

[CFordUNC]

Now is not the time for fear, Republicans. That comes later. Your punishment must be more severe!

 

[SnoopRob]

Hinchcliffe is in Austin, and Austin in recent years has cultivated a comedy club scene leaning toward the right and headed by Rogan/Hinchcliffe and others. And consequently that scene is becoming notorious for walking that line between what some consider edgy comedy and what some consider hate speech/xenophobia etc. From my experience, that scene is not my thing.

I think it's less that they "walk that line" between edgy comedy and hate speech/xenophobia and more that they simply appeal to a crowd that finds hate speech/xenophobia funny.

 

[RockyMtnHoo]

Well…a normal GOP would slump down in their seat. The Trump GOP will pat him on the back and tell him how great it was.

 

[Willy]

I think it's less that they "walk that line" between edgy comedy and hate speech/xenophobia and more that they simply appeal to a crowd that finds hate speech/xenophobia funny.

And their target audience appears to be young, white males, which ties back to some of the other discussions regarding the Gen Z male voter.

 

[duluoz]

From what I was able to catch and what I gathered of the speech, trump certainly never apologized to Puerto Ricans or anyone else about the Hinchcliffe incident. If he even mentioned it at all.

Which is perfect, because now he owns it even more than before.

 

[nycfan]

 

[heelinhell]

Poll:

Which lovefest showed more love ?

The love storming the Capitol on 1/6 or the love in MSG ?

 

[finesse]

Poll:

Which lovefest showed more love ?

The love storming the Capitol on 1/6 or the love in MSG ?

Going by the physical display of closeness and intimacy, I have to go with 1/6.

 

[BlooVooDoo]

First, presidential rallies, in general , aren't what they used to be. We have comedians, rappers, professional wrestlers, etc, so having a comedian isn't surprising.

Second, he's a comedian. He does what comedians do. I suspect he was also confident that his audience would be receptive to his off-color jokes.

I don't blame Ricky Gervais for his performance at the hoity toity Golden Globes. I blame the Golden Globes for inviting a host who they knew was known for controversial comedy. Ricky was doing what Ricky does, just like this guy. Ultimately, he did nothing wrong to be held accountable for, IMO.

But Ricky Gervais is actually funny. He’s an extremely successful comedian who sometimes says controversial things. Like Chappell or Carlin. Hinchcliffe is an asshole bro of modest success telling jokes, mostly on a podcast. This I know only because I’ve never heard of him before this spectacle and that’s what Google has to say about him.